New to tractors; Tire & other Questions; Sorry for the long long post!

lambo2936

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Hey folks. I know some of these are off topic but didn't want to start multiple threads.

New to tractors. Parents recently purchased a house here in SNJ on ~3.2 acres (Versus the .3 acres we come from in CNJ). House is awesome, property is awesome. My father wanted to till up An acre or two and plant 100+ Fruit trees to grow various vegetables and fruits for us and to donate whatever we don't need to the neighbors and eventually local food pantrys and such that need it.

Anyhow, they are still sitting on the old house which is up on the market so i decided to pick up a tractor to have through the winter for plowing purposes (large/long driveway compared to our old one!) and just to have for various projects. Fruit trees and such wont be going in until spring, obviously, but my father has been building a huge coop with aviaries and all sorts of stuff for the Chickens, Quails and Pheasants he now keeps.

It's a 2017 B3350SU that i picked up Friday from a used equipment dealer about an hour and a half away. Unfortunately it was already dark when i got to the guys yard to pick the machine up so i missed a few things i wasn't too happy about; a crack in the tail light housing, couple scratches, dings, etc.. but overall not a bad machine and a days work and some touch up paint from tractor supply made it look not-so-shabby.... 'til i discovered a leak coming from the 3rd function valve. Im 25; certainly handy with construction experience and stuff, and my father was a mechanic for 20+ years, so after discovering a shredded o ring coming out of the aluminum block i picked up a new set from Tractor supply and slapped one on there.

First question; A fair amount of hydraulic fluid spilled from the line/valve. I checked the dip stick by the 3 point and it looks fine, i just wanted to be sure that was the same reservoir that feeds the loader and backhoe?

On with the story... Shortly after, i discovered a nail sticking out the tire. The tire looked full so i didn't notice and i'm assuming he didnt notice that there was NO AIR in it. I Found out after yanking out the nail and hearing no noise... quick check with meter and it was empty..
After struggling to get a plug in it, i aired it up and the darn thing was leaking. It ended up literally falling out on its own when i rolled the tractor forward to get to my trailer.
Replugged it, and i think itll hold this time (Fingers crossed)..
When i emailed the dealer with a "wtf" (long story short), he asked if the front tires were foam filled..

I'm clueless on the matter, but when he asked that a light bulb lit up; that would explain why the flat tire wasn't flat.

SECOND question: How would i know if it was foam filled? The tool that comes with the kit went in (with a hell of a lot of force) but with how hard i had to push i could have just went through the foam.
I have photos and they will hopefully be attached to this... This is my primary concern right now as if this tire can't be saved i'll have to pull some teeth to try and get a new tire out of the guy. To be clear these are "Industrial" Tires, i believe. The tread is kinda burried in the grass/dirt but i tried to get some pictures showing the flat or lack-there-of given there's 0 air in the tire after ~4 hours.

THIRD question: the Arms, etc for the 3 point weren't included. I'll need em sooner or later. What, exactly, do i need? Tractor supply had various components but i was completely lost. Need the arm things, bolts, all of it. Any help would be appreciated.


Last but not least, i noticed multiple parts (Headlight, and the plaque on the engine) both labeled with 2014 DOM's (im assuming). He sold the machine to me as a 2017. I emailed the dealer who initially sold the machine and they told me that it was sold in 2017. That's great and all, as far as warranty goes, but it could most definitely be a 2015 left over that finally sold in 2017, right? The level of wear on the machine would make sense for a 2015, not so much for a tractor that sold just a year ago.
Not the end of the world as i have the warranty, but that would also mean this thing sat around for 2+ years longer than expected in the sun and rain (explaining some of the fading on plastic components and such), and that obviously the value would take a hit as it is, at the end of the day, a 2015 NOT a 2017. Maybe not much, but enough to cover an attachment or two that i am bound to purchase(tiller, post hole digger, forks, grapple, who knows). Just wondering if theres a way to find out for sure? His response when i asked was that the motor could have sat in the factory before finally being used, but i doubt itd sit from 2014 to 2016 or 2017. Certainly not the headlight too?

Let me know what you guys think. I appreciate the help and i sincerely apologize for the annoyingly long post. Just kinda lost with this, i barely know how to operate it yet.. LOL. Any other tips you can provide would be awesome, as well.
It's a B3350SU with a Loader and Backhoe.
 

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conropl

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Tractor sales are not like cars. They don't really have model years. The year the tractor is sold is what is listed as the year of the tractor... not when it was made. In other words, if the tractor was made in 2015, but not sold until 2017; then the tractor is a 2017 tractor. That's pretty universal for tractor sales... they don't have the model changes every year, and inventory turn over like the automotive industry.

Make sure you check the records and talk to the Kubota dealer to make sure all the emissions upgrades (recalls and bulletins actually) have been performed. If not, then they need to be done. That model has had a history of emissions issues that Kubota says are now fixed, but you need to make sure the fixes where completed.

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As CON said - the year is really not important, when sold starts the timer on warranty issues.

ONE thing you might want to get out of your head.....DO not baby the engine!!!! Work it and run up the RPM's a bit once broken in, those engines need to burn off all the "good" stuff off the DPF (muffler) - so running around at 1500 rpms will do more harm than good when it comes to regenerations.

As for foam - take foot and push on tire firm - move at all? If so - then prob no foam, if firm, then prob foamed. Foamed tires are great with the situation calls for it, like locust tree and those other @#$# trees/bushes with thorns. HOWEVER - foam tires are tough on the operator, since what little shock you had up front is now gone.

here is some reading up on your machine:

http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32490

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...ing/394156-b3350su-regen-issues-continue.html

make sure you hit this NAIL on the head! :

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...3350su-regen-issues-continue.html#post5059959
 

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I’d approach them about replacing the 3-pt linkages. They are expensive to buy from Kubota and the originals I believe are telescopic which makes connect implements much easier. Call Kubota and get a quote.
 

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How much air did you put in the tire after the plug? That may be a good indicator if foam filled.

You mentioned installing an O-Ring in the third function valve. Probably all the O-rings on your tractor are metric. Sometimes you get close with an SAE and they will work, but just for your info. You need to know what the valve mfg. used.

For the 3pt arms, check Ebay, or post on the "Buy, Sell & Trade" forum here to alert folks of your need. I would take the time to locate Kubota arms. Some aftermarket arms can be more trouble than worth.

Welcome to the forum.
 

lambo2936

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Given the size of the tire, id say it took in enough air to not be foam or rubber filled. Thing is even with the weight of the machine and me standing and jumping on the tire, it shows very little sights of going anywhere... and i did it on the other side too seems the same, and that side took and held the air fine.
The pictures i attached are of the 'flat' one. 0 air and seems to be about identical to the one thats aired up.

As far as updates, ill ask the dealer. It has 180 hours, last service was at 160hrs (oil and hydraulic filters both written on, changed 6-11-18.

The valve is a WR Long. Sae one fit nice and tight, 99% certain its the right one.
 
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Foamed tires won't have a core in the valve stem, and they won't take any air.

Don't bother with any aftermarket three point arms or parts they will bend or break in nothing flat! Get an OEM set.

Sale date, is model year date.

You do know the ugly history behind this model don't you?
If you don't you better start reading, it's not pretty.
Let me guess... It snowed a little and you ran out a bought a tractor without doing any research on the model. ;)
Does NJ have a lemon law on tractors?
 
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Contrary to what many say, the year made is important, more so with this model. Many small running changes are usually made in a tractor model without changing the model number. Knowing when your tractor was made can be important in getting the correct parts. Sales date is the Sales date not necessarily the model year date because a brand new tractor that is 3 years old before it was sold and that model stopped production 2 years ago does not make it a 2018 model.
 
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Lambo itmight be worth trying to return this tractor and getting your money back, some states give you a few days to change your mind. It could have been in that second hand dealership for a reason. I think everyone on the forum would feel terrible to spoil your enjoyment of a new tractor, but take seriously the suggestions about making sure all the updates have been done. How much training did this dealer give you on how to use it? Do you have an owner's manual? Not all B3350s have given trouble, but a lot. It is a tough tractor for a 1st time owner. It should still be under warranty, so if you keep it, take it to an establshed Kubota dealership. All the best of luck, and hoping the guy that sold it to you was a decent chap.
 

lambo2936

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Foamed tires won't have a core in the valve stem, and they won't take any air.

Don't bother with any aftermarket three point arms or parts they will bend or break in nothing flat! Get an OEM set.

Sale date, is model year date.

You do know the ugly history behind this model don't you?
If you don't you better start reading, it's not pretty.
Let me guess... It snowed a little and you ran out a bought a tractor without doing any research on the model. ;)
Does NJ have a lemon law on tractors?
I did do some reading and read some reviews online but none mentioned the issue with the emissions. Guess those writers are in kubotas pockets?
Its still under warranty so im not TOO concerned. The guy has obviously had it serviced regularly, given the date on the filters and such. Ill ask the original dealer about it.

Yes, the actual model year matters. A 2015 that sat for 2 years has aged lines, less life in tires, and is at the end of the day a 2015, the fact that it only sold in 17 just means the buyer got a better deal. All the more reason for me to get one too. I dont call my left over snowmobile a 2012, its a 2010 that sat for 2 years which is why i got a great deal. Does it mean its worth as much as a 2012 with the same use and condition? Nope. Certainly not to me.
 

lambo2936

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Lambo itmight be worth trying to return this tractor and getting your money back, some states give you a few days to change your mind. It could have been in that second hand dealership for a reason. I think everyone on the forum would feel terrible to spoil your enjoyment of a new tractor, but take seriously the suggestions about making sure all the updates have been done. How much training did this dealer give you on how to use it? Do you have an owner's manual? Not all B3350s have given trouble, but a lot. It is a tough tractor for a 1st time owner. It should still be under warranty, so if you keep it, take it to an establshed Kubota dealership. All the best of luck, and hoping the guy that sold it to you was a decent chap.
I do have the manual for loader and tractor, not the hoe. Read the manual. He showed me the basics of how to move things around and such but nothing extensive.

Ive been looking within 5 hours of snj for about a month or so now, so i didnt entirely rush into it but this is the first machine that had loader and hoe and was what i considered reasonably priced.

Was originally looking at 23-25hp machines but i decided to go a bit bigger than your average bx25, given the price difference. Bx25 would likely serve me fine for what i need it for but this has the 3rd valve, longer reach, skidsteer bucket etc.. likely going to be picking up a larger property as soon as old house sells, and ill be buying around here too so well be clearing a good bit of land.
 
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