L245DT could use a paint job

[cummins90]

I'd like to keep this machine for a good long while and it needs a paint job. I was gifted 3 gallons of Case IRON/GARD enamel. Not to look a gift horse in the mouth but I'd like to make it orange. Does anyone have recommendations on what to use for dye? This paint is lead based.

 

[chim]

Pittsburgh AUE coatings are great. I used them on a snow blower and it held up for years (except inside the actual blower - nothing can stand up to eating grit, stones and salt)

EDIT - misread and missed that you want to COLOR existing paint

 

[cummins90]

Yep trying to dye existing case yellow to relatively orange.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

go into any real 'paint store', they can (well should...) be able to help you.....
you use pigments, not 'dye' to change colours...
BTW how OLD is the paint ? That is a big factor..... 'enamels' have a shelf life, unlike auto paints.
Also if you do decide to change, dump all 3 gallons into a 5 gallon pail as it's nearly impossible to make 3 batches the same colour.

 

[DustyRusty]

Make sure that the cans are well shaken before doing anything with it. I don't believe that an automotive paint store can change the color of your existing paint, because the tints that they have are designed for the paints that they mix, and might not mix well with your paint. I would just use it the way it comes to you.

 

[ken erickson]

You might want to pull a small sample of the Case color, yellow ? and try mixing it yourself? Yellow being a primary color, add red and you get orange. Of course there are tons of different shades of both yellow and red and it would be a trial and error to come up with Kubota orange.

Not sure if you would need a lead based enamel for compatibility.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

1st step is finding out WHO made the paint, when . 'lead' based, sounds like very,very old formula.
Once you KNOW that, a 'paint' shop can alter the colour.

 

[ken erickson]

If not mistaken it is legal for certain industrial coatings in the USA to contain certain amount of lead to this day.

Exempt but must bear labeling restriction in 16 CFR §1303.3(b):
The following products are exempt as long as they are labeled with specific warnings indicating they contain lead: agricultural and industrial equipment refinish coatings; building and equipment maintenance coatings; products marketed solely for use on billboards, road signs, and similar products; touch-up coatings for agricultural equipment, lawn and garden equipment, and appliances; and catalyzed coatings marketed solely for use on radio-controlled model airplanes.

My highlight on the orange text.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

You've got paint and that's great
And you can get dye off of amazon

But, you need a catalyst and or / hardener
You will also need the proper reducer.
And you will need proper spray equipment.

Trying to use old obsolete paint to save a buck is foolish.
It's going to cost you more than if you get new fresh water based Equipment paint in the right color and shoot it.

Paint has a shelf life and I'll bet you that paint is long past it.
And while it may look good in the can, it's going to have a ton of issues trying to use it.

 

[fried1765]

You've got paint and that's great
And you can get dye off of amazon

But, you need a catalyst and or / hardener
You will also need the proper reducer.
And you will need proper spray equipment.

Trying to use old obsolete paint to save a buck is foolish.
It's going to cost you more than if you get new fresh water based Equipment paint in the right color and shoot it.

Paint has a shelf life and I'll bet you that paint is long past it.
And while it may look good in the can, it's going to have a ton of issues trying to use it.

"Water based Equipment paint"???
NOPE!

 

[GreensvilleJay]

yeesh....what's in a name...

Iron Guard Water-Based Acrylic Enamel | Krylon® Industrial}

Our Iron Guard® is a high gloss, 100% acrylic, waterborne, corrosion resistant coating designed for new construction or maintenance use. Learn more here.

www.krylon.com

it'd be nice to see picture of the OP's paint !
No lead here in Canada since mid '70s.......

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

"Water based Equipment paint"???
NOPE!

I think you would be quite surprised how much equipment is painted with water base.
You don't have to deal with so many EPA issues if you use it.
Almost all automotive paints and equipment paints are going that way.

I switched all of my cabinet coatings to water based.
Better results
Better finish
Much easier to prep and apply.
No more Heavy expensive filters for breathing or air cleaning.
No more expensive solvents to thin or do clean up.
And WAY WAY easier to clean up!

 

[cummins90]

The hood is in the same ...patina but you get the idea.

 

[RCW]

I'm only shooting from the hip - -

You want (I assume) a "Kubota orange" appropriate to your tractor and it's age.

You have an old(er) Case paint. Like other manufacturers, I think there could be several "Case Yellows" over the years.

Don't know that, but know Minneapolis Moline had a few for tractors and industrial applications.....ask me how I know....

My suggestion is:

1. Paint it with what you have - to heck with Kubota Orange. You're going to spend a lot of effort trying - but not going to match it anyway.
2. Throw the old paint out and get what you want that matches colors.

 

[fried1765]

I think you would be quite surprised how much equipment is painted with water base.
You don't have to deal with so many EPA issues if you use it.
Almost all automotive paints and equipment paints are going that way.

I switched all of my cabinet coatings to water based.
Better results
Better finish
Much easier to prep and apply.
No more Heavy expensive filters for breathing or air cleaning.
No more expensive solvents to thin or do clean up.
And WAY WAY easier to clean up!

Yup....."EASIER"..... for sure!

 

[cummins90]

I'm very ok with it not matching any official kubota orange. It will be orange tho.

 

[ken erickson]

yeesh....what's in a name...

Iron Guard Water-Based Acrylic Enamel | Krylon® Industrial}

Our Iron Guard® is a high gloss, 100% acrylic, waterborne, corrosion resistant coating designed for new construction or maintenance use. Learn more here.

www.krylon.com

it'd be nice to see picture of the OP's paint !
No lead here in Canada since mid '70s.......

Canada has similar exemptions for lead based paint use as the USA.

Canadian Federal Limits for Lead in Paints and Surface Coatings
The Canadian Federal Government began limiting the amount of lead in certain new paints to 0.5% by weight (5,000 mg/kg, μg/g, parts per million [ppm]) in 1976. The Surface Coating Materials Regulation (SOR/2005-109) dated April 19, 2005, as amended, pursuant to the 2005 Hazardous Products Act, revised the standard to limit the amount of lead in certain paints to 0.06% (600 ppm). In October 2010, this was revised to 0.009 % (90 ppm). As detailed in the Surface Coating Materials Regulation (SOR/2005-109), paints and surface coatings manufactured for the following uses are excluded from the limitation on lead content:

1. 1) as an anti-corrosive or an anti-weathering coating applied on the interior or exterior surface of any building or equipment that is used for an agricultural or industrial purpose;
2. 2) as an anti-corrosive or an anti-weathering coating applied on any structure, other than a building, that is used for an agricultural, industrial or public purpose;
3. 3) as a touch-up coating for metal surfaces;
4. 4) on traffic signs;
5. 5) for graphic art on billboards or similar displays;
6. 6) for identification marks in industrial buildings; or
7. 7) as material for the purposes of arts, crafts or hobbies, other than material for use by children (SOR/2010-224, s.1).

As a side note; A Canadian company is the worlds largest producer of lead based paint according to this article. toronto-company-s-lead-based-products-a-danger-to-world-health-critics-say-1.3340853

Dominion Colour Corporation, the largest manufacturer of lead-based paint pigments in the world, attracted the attention of critics earlier this year when the company attempted to get an exemption to continue selling the products in the European Union.

 

[ken erickson]

I'm very ok with it not matching any official kubota orange. It will be orange tho.

I am in a different camp than many here. I say, if its something you want to use up on your Kubota go for it. I see nothing wrong with spending some cash on hardener and reducer, finding a compatible red to come up with a orange color , mix up a small amount and spray a test piece. Nothing ventured , nothing gained. If things go to heck in a handbag you can declare it a learning experience.

 

[DustyRusty]

If you want to brush the paint, then consider Chevrolet engine paint. I use engine paint from Bill Hirsh Auto in Newark NJ. It is $42 a quart, and it brushes on and dries without any brush marks. They presently are out of gallons which is usually priced at 3 quarts. It can be thinned with xylene.

 

[D2Cat]

Some folks focus on attention to detail, but some folks never notice. I had a gallon of Ditch Witch Industrial Orange. I used some to see how it looked on a tractor, then decided to paint the entire machine.
I used some hardener, but I'm not a painter. No one ever said a word about this color not looking like Kubota, even the guy I sold it to.