down pressure on a rear blade, add weights the only solution?

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I thought about this before I bought the blade, too.

Currently its use is for snow along with front snowblower, it too could use some weight in the float position.

I notice that it really does float and in most cases that is good, I guess. My driveway is quite uneven.
It seems like I can scrape up snow continually a layer at a time and I wanted to get a bit more efficient with my passes.
 

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Extend the top link should make the blade more aggressive.
 
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I slid a couple suitcase weights on my rear blade for ballast, should work fine for down pressure.
 

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Weights are about the only way to get down pressure on the rear blade. The three point hitch is power up only. The only down pressure is from gravity.
 

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I slid a couple suitcase weights on my rear blade for ballast, should work fine for down pressure.
I have some weights I bought for the garden tractor I upgraded from and that is what I was thinking.

There is no "attachment" point so I would need to modify the blade or QH to accommodate them.
 

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Good or bad, when I was a kid, I was the down pressure on the scraper blade, disc, and hare.
 
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Rear blade shouldn’t need extra weight to clear snow if it is adjusted correctly. If it isn’t digging the snow up enough, then you need to adjust it. As was pointed out, adjust the top link to make the blade more or less aggressive as the conditions warrant.
 
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I thought about this before I bought the blade, too.

Currently its use is for snow along with front snowblower, it too could use some weight in the float position.

I notice that it really does float and in most cases that is good, I guess. My driveway is quite uneven.
It seems like I can scrape up snow continually a layer at a time and I wanted to get a bit more efficient with my passes.
For plowing snow a 3pt scraper blade should be heavy enough to stay on the ground in anything but really deep snow,. You can add some weights to the frame if you have a lightweight blade. If after plowing I need down pressure to scrape the pavement dead clean I use the loader bucket.

Dan
 

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snow blades and rear dirt blades are not the same. Snow plow blades are taller ,tend to have more 'curl', with the top edge 2-3-4 inches ahead of the bottom 'cutting' edge. This allows the snow to roll over and be pushed offt to the side. Rear blades are more 'pushing' blades than 'plowing' blades
 

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I bought a blade that weighs 1000#
 
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If you have rear hydraulics, you could rig up a cylinder to add down pressure. It would take some bracketry, fabrication but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
 
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I was a bit shocked at how much I used my hydraulic top link on the rear blade attachment for snow. Changing the top angle really does have a significant effect on the angle 'pulling' the blade into the snow surface. Also nice to be able to get closer to structures/etc and scrape the snow away.
 
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adding weights isn't the 'only solution. Russian Belarus tractors have down pressure on 3pt.
Kinda expensive solution though !
You could fab up a 'weight box' to sit on the top edge of the blade.
 

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I’m just thinking aloud so forgive me!
if a guy did have down pressure on a 3pt hitch, I can foresee a lot of carnage from the rear of tractors trying to be lifted off the ground by the ‘locked down’ implement ( rather than floating) and the subsequent high pressures in the cylinders, bending the cylinder rods, blowing hoses, relief valves constantly bypassing overheating oil, tearing the 3pt cylinder mounts off the rear ends (already seems to happen on some top link mis use) Maybe I’m thinking too hard?
Now an old eastern block tractor like a Belarus, well, they may have a bit more metal in them than our dainty orange Japanese surgical tools!!
 

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I’m just thinking aloud so forgive me!
if a guy did have down pressure on a 3pt hitch, I can foresee a lot of carnage from the rear of tractors trying to be lifted off the ground by the ‘locked down’ implement ( rather than floating) and the subsequent high pressures in the cylinders, bending the cylinder rods, blowing hoses, relief valves constantly bypassing overheating oil, tearing the 3pt cylinder mounts off the rear ends (already seems to happen on some top link mis use) Maybe I’m thinking too hard?
Now an old eastern block tractor like a Belarus, well, they may have a bit more metal in them than our dainty orange Japanese surgical tools!!
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Not to mention it might cause the sky to start falling. o_O

Dan
 

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If you have rear hydraulics, you could rig up a cylinder to add down pressure. It would take some bracketry, fabrication but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I used to have an old Farmall with down pressure. I thought it would be great, until I found out applying down pressure on the blade lifted the back tires. With front wheel assist it might be better, but I think gravity is still the best option.
 

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I used to have an old Farmall with down pressure. I thought it would be great, until I found out applying down pressure on the blade lifted the back tires. With front wheel assist it might be better, but I think gravity is still the best option.
JD has a different opinion:


Dan
 

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Having down pressure out back is no different than up front. Once you read(?) and use it properly no damage will occour. BTW it's GREAT having it ,when changing tires !
 

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I liked the farmall fast hitch with down pressure and miss it going back to the 3 point on the Kubota. I think the fast hitch was a much better design but Ford won that battle. I think Ford was more like microsoft and let the Aftermarket have the design but not sure of the history. the fast hitch was easier to back into the implement and go. 3 pt is always a pita to attach anything.