Diesel Cold Weather Additive

Paluch1

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Far as my 'condition' is concerned, I'd love to give it to you. Then you would appreciate what I'm going through. My condition' has to outcomes, death or life. Nothing in between.



Maybe you'd like to be faced with what I'm dealing with crckerjack.



I'm not a pitty pot, feel sorry for myself person. On the contrary. While I may not be able to do everything as fast as I did prior to my 'condition' I still do everything I did before my 'condition' was discovered and treatment began



I find your comments immature and condescending.



I'm done.


Just ignore him and thanks for the help!!


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Mike9

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Another nod to Power Service White here. I add a shot of Stanadyne as well to my fuel can when I fill up. Most of the time I fill from my son's work truck and they use everything. If I'm storing fuel I'll add some home made SeaFoam.
 

Lil Foot

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While we are on the subject, has anyone got a feel for how cold for how long until gelling becomes a problem? I'm primarily concerned about my Ford 6.0L. The Kubota has a small tank, and sips fuel, I just run Power Service white all the time. A quart will last me years.
The 6.0 has a 60 gal tank and normally lives in warm temps, but occasionally goes to the high country where it can get cold in the winter months. So what I'm looking for is some kind of a rule of thumb as to when I should run Power Service.
30f for 8hrs?
15f for 8hrs?
anything under 32f for any amount of time?
Or just take the safe route and use it all the time when it might be cold overnight?
Any input will be appreciated.
 

Paluch1

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While we are on the subject, has anyone got a feel for how cold for how long until gelling becomes a problem? I'm primarily concerned about my Ford 6.0L. The Kubota has a small tank, and sips fuel, I just run Power Service white all the time. A quart will last me years.

The 6.0 has a 60 gal tank and normally lives in warm temps, but occasionally goes to the high country where it can get cold in the winter months. So what I'm looking for is some kind of a rule of thumb as to when I should run Power Service.

30f for 8hrs?

15f for 8hrs?

anything under 32f for any amount of time?

Or just take the safe route and use it all the time when it might be cold overnight?

Any input will be appreciated.


In my 97 powerstroke I ran power service all the time in Winter, my son in his Cummins never did and he did not have issues. I would run it


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rjcorazza

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While we are on the subject, has anyone got a feel for how cold for how long until gelling becomes a problem? I'm primarily concerned about my Ford 6.0L. The Kubota has a small tank, and sips fuel, I just run Power Service white all the time. A quart will last me years.

The 6.0 has a 60 gal tank and normally lives in warm temps, but occasionally goes to the high country where it can get cold in the winter months. So what I'm looking for is some kind of a rule of thumb as to when I should run Power Service.

30f for 8hrs?

15f for 8hrs?

anything under 32f for any amount of time?

Or just take the safe route and use it all the time when it might be cold overnight?

Any input will be appreciated.

A lot depends on when (and if) fuel is treated in your geographical area. Untreated #2 diesel begins clouding at 32 deg f.
If the 60g in your tank has been treated or cut with #1 everything should be fine. If not, you are rolling the dice.
Given the consequences, I treat my fuel when lows hit the 32 deg f mark.


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beaterboss

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Since I don't care for additives much, I usually treat with one gallon of Water Clear Low Sulfur Kerosene to every 10 gallons of Diesel. Have been doing it for years and have never had any issues, with either run ability or gelling. It gets COLD up here, and using the tractor at -10 or -15f is not uncommon. Anything below -15f and my butt stays inside. We do have Winter Blend Diesel here, but the Kero adds a little more insurance.
 

Creature Meadow

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While we are on the subject, has anyone got a feel for how cold for how long until gelling becomes a problem? I'm primarily concerned about my Ford 6.0L. The Kubota has a small tank, and sips fuel, I just run Power Service white all the time. A quart will last me years.
The 6.0 has a 60 gal tank and normally lives in warm temps, but occasionally goes to the high country where it can get cold in the winter months. So what I'm looking for is some kind of a rule of thumb as to when I should run Power Service.
30f for 8hrs?
15f for 8hrs?
anything under 32f for any amount of time?
Or just take the safe route and use it all the time when it might be cold overnight?
Any input will be appreciated.
No expert but what I do is Power Service white bottle starting in November here in NC through March then switch to the gray bottle for the summer. No problems so far and my tractor is used almost daily year around worse case in the winter every 2 or 3 days.

I have a small plastic cup I have marked at 1 gallon increments so I can had accordingly based on container I'm adding to, little less than a 1/2 ounce per gallon.
 

Lil Foot

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A lot depends on when (and if) fuel is treated in your geographical area.
It is not.
I'm told the Flagstaff area has treated fuel in the winter for the I-40 truckers, but that would be about a 150 mile detour from my normal route to my place in the high country.
Given the consequences, I treat my fuel when lows hit the 32 deg f mark.
That is what I have been doing, guess I'll just continue.
Thanks.
 

Bulldog

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Nothing wrong with power service but I switched to Amsoil all in one conditioner from their standard.

It's conditioner with cold flow and cetane boost in one bottle. Made a big difference in my F350. Idles smoother, pulls better, increased the mileage and cut down on smoke.
 

SidecarFlip

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What I use. I add the appropriate amount and then top off my tanks. Diesel fuel will gel below freezing sometimes, not always.
 

SidecarFlip

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Nothing wrong with power service but I switched to Amsoil all in one conditioner from their standard.

It's conditioner with cold flow and cetane boost in one bottle. Made a big difference in my F350. Idles smoother, pulls better, increased the mileage and cut down on smoke.
I use Archoil Nano-Borate additive in my oil and their fuel modifier in my fuel tank. It ain't cheap but it works for me in my 7.3 Navistar.
 

rjcorazza

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This the stuff?

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Servic...sr=1-2&keywords=power+service+diesel+additive

First timer owning anything diesel, so being in NJ I'm going to add this as winter is starting to set in. Also once diesel gels, does it ungel when it warms?

Assuming I can also add this to the existing tank no problem, it won't be mixed as well as if I added it to a can and then filled it with fuel.

That is what I use to prevent the fuel from gelling. It will not work once the fuel has already gelled. You can use their “911” product for diesel that is currently gelled.
Once diesel gels, it will will eventually clear, but it takes MUCH longer than you would think.


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Clover13

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That is what I use to prevent the fuel from gelling. It will not work once the fuel has already gelled. You can use their “911” product for diesel that is currently gelled.
Once diesel gels, it will will eventually clear, but it takes MUCH longer than you would think.


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Thanks! I saw the link to Walmart earlier where it's much cheaper than Amazon.
 

wwiifan

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i've always got along good with Howes Diesel Treatment in my BX and an older Power Stroke i used to have...??? Any of you all try the Howes...???
 

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Just to add to the mix, I use Kubota's diesel fuel treatment. Gives dose to lower gel point 25 degrees, supposed to keep injectors clean, raise cetane level, etc. About the same price as the others. First bottle came in a new buyer care package along with my Kubota sweatshirt, and so I switched from Powerservice. I suspect 6 of one half dozen of the other.
 

Paluch1

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Just to add to the mix, I use Kubota's diesel fuel treatment. Gives dose to lower gel point 25 degrees, supposed to keep injectors clean, raise cetane level, etc. About the same price as the others. First bottle came in a new buyer care package along with my Kubota sweatshirt, and so I switched from Powerservice. I suspect 6 of one half dozen of the other.


Where did you order that from ?


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85Hokie

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"along with my Kubota sweatshirt"

REalllllllyyy????? All I got was a tractor with my 20K hat!!!!!!!!!!:p:)

Id like a kubota sweatshirt!