I was talking to a guy at Lodge the other evening, and the discussion came around to fuel prices. He was telling me he just about had everything he needed to start making bio fuel for the farm. Now he has a couple of newer tractors, 100+ hp New Holland, and I think a Case. I didnt say anything cause I dont know, but I have heard many times over about not using bio fuel in the Kubota,, now I ask, why is that?
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Kubota's can run off a 5% biodiesel, but apparently the biofuel will have problems in the colder months once the temps drop, much like regular diesel, gelling can occur.
Some parts of the engine are affected my the bio - filters and injectors seem to be the two places that bio will mess up the works if not properly treated.
There are engineers that are taking the biofuel and somehow changing the molecular strings to be more like normal diesel.
I would imagine in the next 20 years - damn near all diesel will be plant/animal based - it will take them a while to tweak the system, much like they did by removing lead from gasoline.
Some parts of the engine are affected my the bio - filters and injectors seem to be the two places that bio will mess up the works if not properly treated.
There are engineers that are taking the biofuel and somehow changing the molecular strings to be more like normal diesel.
I would imagine in the next 20 years - damn near all diesel will be plant/animal based - it will take them a while to tweak the system, much like they did by removing lead from gasoline.
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Out of curiosity, did he say from what he would make the biodiesel from? I would think that, unless he is making it from some sort of waste material, it would be far more expensive than buying diesel - much like ethanol. Or like ethanol, is there some sort of subsidy?
I wont use it and I don't buy it so no hands on experience.
A fleet operator friend of mine advised and i made some research and read from US Gov. that bio diesel increases the load on a DPF and shortens its life but no impact on DEF systems.
Also in cold central Canada gelling is a little harder to manage.
A fleet operator friend of mine advised and i made some research and read from US Gov. that bio diesel increases the load on a DPF and shortens its life but no impact on DEF systems.
Also in cold central Canada gelling is a little harder to manage.
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as for gelling, you just preheat the biodiesel, same as DEF systems in current pickups and such.
BTW, the last thing the guv wants are farmers GROWING their fuel !!!
BTW, the last thing the guv wants are farmers GROWING their fuel !!!
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yup, that's why I bought my BX23S, it'll dig six feet deep. perfect to keep dogs from digging up the dead.
And,since many look at it as a 'toy', don't suspect that it can do the dirty deed.
And,since many look at it as a 'toy', don't suspect that it can do the dirty deed.
Buofuel can act as a solvent on some rubber parts. The manufacturer has to change from rubber for nitrile for o-rings etc. Sounds like K hasn't made the switch to accommodate higher content biofuels.
Good biodiesel FAQ
Aircraft industry has the same issues trying to use biofuel in their engines.
Good biodiesel FAQ
Aircraft industry has the same issues trying to use biofuel in their engines.
Biodiesel acts as a solvent for old diesel gunk. Newer diesels after ULSD shoudn't have that issue. You have to go back to early 2000s to have diesel that isn't ULSD.
Some say that there are issues with rubber, etc dealing with biodiesel as well. The power available in one gallon of biodiesel vs normal diesel can vary depending on how much bio is added.
I used to have a truck that liked 20% biodiesel just fine. My problem with it was that I got a bit less MPG for the same cost.
Some say that there are issues with rubber, etc dealing with biodiesel as well. The power available in one gallon of biodiesel vs normal diesel can vary depending on how much bio is added.
I used to have a truck that liked 20% biodiesel just fine. My problem with it was that I got a bit less MPG for the same cost.
I have to assume , that his daughter runs a bar/restaurant, that would where his supply of used cooking oil, would come from, other than that I dont know
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I made biod for my vw tdi and mb 240d from waste veg oil for a few years. Ran it straight in summer and mixed with d2 in winter. Only once had a gel issue that was remedied with ps red. Upped my d2 proportions after that. Both vehicles were pre def etc so no problems there. Was cheap to make but did take time. Finally stopped when diesel prices dropped. This was in the mid 2000’s.