B7100 with FEL Hydro Block question (3pt. Problems)

Paranorm

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I have one here somewher - I will dig it out. That description seems to indicate it can be used with either a flange or banjo fitting. The Kubota parts book is clearly banjo.

Paranormal you got it covered but better check the threads on that port. "Normal" is a setting on a clothes dryer. Could be metric ORB, BSPP, SAE, ORB or something more obscure. The pump dexcription should say what it is.

Dan

The Problem is, it is only mention AS Site from the Ports.
See below

Welle/ Zapfen: 13,50mm


Drehrichtung: Rechtsdrehend!!!


Einpass/ Zentrierung 58mm



Einlass: 1/2"



Auslass: 3/8"


Nothing about the fitting or the screw, it self....

I used for normal Water Installation this Bolts, for that it works finde, but i can only Tell that till 150psi...
I don T know the behavior of the Thing at 2000psi...

I will Check that... I Ordered the parts today, so maybe i ll get them Till the Weekend...(there are coming from Germany).
Than i can start with some hours layin under my orange Lady 😁
 

Paranorm

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I don't know what the difference is between "JBSP" and "BSPP". The adapter you show in post 36 might be the right thread but seems to have an o-ring. The pump has a flat surface and originally sealed with a flat copper crush washer. It is hard to tell for certain from the picture if the pump outlet also has a bevel to retain an o-ring.

If it does, and if the thread is correct, then that adapter is an elegant solution. Please let us know how it works out.

I also ordered some other "washers"
Like this a washer with rubber INSIDE and Iron outside.. IMG_20220323_180959.jpg

I will get it tight some how... Hopefully
 

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The Problem is, it is only mention AS Site from the Ports.
See below

Welle/ Zapfen: 13,50mm


Drehrichtung: Rechtsdrehend!!!


Einpass/ Zentrierung 58mm



Einlass: 1/2"



Auslass: 3/8"


Nothing about the fitting or the screw, it self....

I used for normal Water Installation this Bolts, for that it works finde, but i can only Tell that till 150psi...
I don T know the behavior of the Thing at 2000psi...

I will Check that... I Ordered the parts today, so maybe i ll get them Till the Weekend...(there are coming from Germany).
Than i can start with some hours layin under my orange Lady 😁
My German consists of about three words but the use of 1/2" and 3/8" sort of rules out anything metric. My bet would be BSPP rather than a North America standard. The iron washers with bonded rubber are probably for use with BSPP adapters. You can also purchase port adapters with integral elastomeric washers. They are a third style and made specificly for BSPP port applications. Getting it to seal is one thing - getting it to seal reliably is another.

Dan
 

Paranorm

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My German consists of about three words but the use of 1/2" and 3/8" sort of rules out anything metric. My bet would be BSPP rather than a North America standard. The iron washers with bonded rubber are probably for use with BSPP adapters. You can also purchase port adapters with integral elastomeric washers. They are a third style and made specificly for BSPP port applications. Getting it to seal is one thing - getting it to seal reliably is another.

Dan
I will check that and try it with the Things i have, and I ll try to get some Special bspp fittings Just to be Sure....
 

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I don't know what the difference is between "JBSP" and "BSPP". The adapter you show in post 36 might be the right thread but seems to have an o-ring. The pump has a flat surface and originally sealed with a flat copper crush washer. It is hard to tell for certain from the picture if the pump outlet also has a bevel to retain an o-ring.

If it does, and if the thread is correct, then that adapter is an elegant solution. Please let us know how it works out.
JBSP is just the Japenese version of the BSP standard . (J)BSP has at least three standard ways of sealing parallel threads - a solid (e.g copper) crush washer, a steel washer bonded with an elastomeric inner ring that basically acts like an oring, and a "real" o-ring port - the BSP analog to a SAE orb port.

Dan

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Paranorm

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Okay Guys,
Yesterday i got a little time and I installed all the new parts...
and Short everything works fine.
i have to Guide the lines a little bit better but it Looks very nice.
i Go directly Out of the Hydro pump and in the Control assy, so that is possible.
and I Made on every Line a BG3 Plug so i can Check the pressure...
i adjust the valve a little bit lower than the 2100 Psi so i m still in the save Side.
FEL is Wirkung 3PT is Wirkung.

so thx again for your Help.
 

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My German consists of about three words but the use of 1/2" and 3/8" sort of rules out anything metric. My bet would be BSPP rather than a North America standard. The iron washers with bonded rubber are probably for use with BSPP adapters. You can also purchase port adapters with integral elastomeric washers. They are a third style and made specificly for BSPP port applications. Getting it to seal is one thing - getting it to seal reliably is another.

Dan
There is a German DIN standard that matches BSPP
Designated with G3/8 typically
 

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There is a German DIN standard that matches BSPP
Designated with G3/8 typically

The G designation is very precisely defined and loosely and imprecisely referenced. It was originally defined in now obsolete BS 2279 as a replacement for the BSPP designation and is currently defined in ISO 228. It has also been incorporated in a host of other national and inernational standards. Here is more than most people want to know.



Dan