Anyone have tips on removing a loaded rear R1 on a Grand L?

[fishpick]

Any practical tips for removing a loaded rear wheel off a L4760 with R1 tires?

Im concerned the tread lugs will make the rolling of it out of the way be very wobbly and prone to falling.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

If there is any concern for your safety or to pick it up if you drop it, I’d check with a local tire service that do work for farmers.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Any practical tips for removing a loaded rear wheel off a L4760 with R1 tires?

Im concerned the tread lugs will make the rolling of it out of the way be very wobbly and prone to falling.

Smooth concrete floor and a shop crane.

Dan

 

[MountainMeadows]

If a concrete floor is available I'd fabricate a tire dolly that could be used with a floor jack to lower or raise the tire into position.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

raise tractor up for just 1 INCH of clearance,put 1/2" plywood underneath
back off the bolts/nuts and 'free' the rim from the hub.Be SURE it's loose BEFORE removing the bolts/nuts !
have TWO strong guys help keep tire VERTICAL(everyone 'disappeared' when I had to do this.....hmmm
CLEAR the area around of hazards
IF the tire wants to fall, LET IT
when off, SLOWLY roll 'one lug at a time', keeping it vertical
SLOWLY ! you don't want the water inside getting ahead of you.......

 

[RMS]

I used one of these from Harbor Freight when I installed the wheel spacers on my lx2610. It worked well for me. https://www.harborfreight.com/5200-lb-max-vehicle-weight-ultra-mobile-self-loading-dolly-64601.html

 

[fishpick]

I have a concrete floor. Would not consider doing elsewhere. I think the goal will be to get it off, roll it about 3’ and “lean” it against a lift post.
not sure that wheel dolly is gonna work for an R1 of the size that this tractor has. The 2610 is considerably smaller.

 

[GBJeffOH]

Any practical tips for removing a loaded rear wheel off a L4760 with R1 tires?

Im concerned the tread lugs will make the rolling of it out of the way be very wobbly and prone to falling.

A second tractor with forks.

 

[jajiu]

I use

d a pallet jack when I installed my wheel spacers, worked like a charm.

 

[SDT]

Any practical tips for removing a loaded rear wheel off a L4760 with R1 tires?

Im concerned the tread lugs will make the rolling of it out of the way be very wobbly and prone to falling.

Ideally you will have skid steer, tractor/FEL, and or help, but it can be done without any such.

I've removed and moved loaded 15.5X38 tires while working alone in a dirt-floored barn but one must be very careful. Simply keep tire/wheel nearly vertical and do not try to stop things should it start to fall. Be certain to have adequate escape room in all directions. Tread lugs are of little concern.

Should you decide to tackle it yourself, suggest having someone else nearby to arrange for help should something go badly wrong.

 

[lugbolt]

the best tip of all;

pay someone to do it for you.

I did tractor repair for 30 years. in those 30 years one thing that stuck out at me was when a tractor shows up needing repair and you didn't know the rear tires are loaded. yeah sure, loosen the lug bolts and nuts, then just pull it off right? Yup...then you find out that your normally 350lb tire/wheel assembly is 1200 lbs. Each side. I used to get the new hires (usually the young'ns) to take it off for me as we didn't have any real tooling to speak of. later on they bought some of those fork-over-leg electric (12v) electric pallet stackers and those things are awesome for pulling tires. Wheel it under the tire, either lift the forks or drop the tractor to it, then remove. Roll the whole thing to where you're going and hope there's no zip ties on the floor because even though those pallet stackers will pick up 2200 lbs, they will stop in their tracks when they encounter a zip tie.

one thing worth noting. if you raise the rear of the tractor with the drawbar frame like most folks do, when you remove ONE rear tire (loaded or not but if they're loaded it's even worse), the entire tractor will flop over to the other side. I've seen them fall off the jack because of this. If you have a loader, put the bucket down squarely on the ground before raising the back end and removing a tire. The bucket helps stabilize the whole tractor. That or use jack stands, but the loader bucket works just fine.

Because of all of the "little" things that you have to do when using loaded tires, I typically tried to advise folks not to load them unless absolutely necessary.

We had one tech that went to remove a tire not knowing it was loaded, bigger M series, and it fell on him--broke 2 ribs and lots of bruises. I had to pick the tire up off of him with a fork lift when the medics got there. Wasn't any fun. They can be dangerous so be mindful when "playing' with em.

 

[rbargeron]

Any practical tips for removing a loaded rear wheel off a L4760 with R1 tires?

Im concerned the tread lugs will make the rolling of it out of the way be very wobbly and prone to falling.

For that size tire (not very big as tractor tires go), air pressure should normally be down around 15 psi. If so it will roll smoothly - you won't really notice the tread lugs. Best to handle it alone so you can sense its balance. Work it away from the studs and roll it to where it can lean against something.

 

[woodman55]

If you don't feel comfortable doing it, get some a company to do it for you. I am sure they would be cheaper than the medical bills, if something goes wrong.

 

[D2Cat]

Not sure about your area, but I can have the service truck come out and service a 16.9x38 tire for $150 plus tires or tubes if needed. The headache and chance of injury is easily worth the cost to me.

 

[fried1765]

Not sure about your area, but I can have the service truck come out and service a 16.9x38 tire for $150 plus tires or tubes if needed. The headache and chance of injury is easily worth the cost to me.

I am nearly 82, and would not hesitate to do the job.
I would obviously use my other tractor with forks.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Not sure about your area, but I can have the service truck come out and service a 16.9x38 tire for $150 plus tires or tubes if needed. The headache and chance of injury is easily worth the cost to me.

I could be mistaken but I dont think this is just tire service. I think the OP may need hours (days?) between dismount and remount and possibly both sides which changes the calculus.

Dan

 

[fishpick]

Thanks for the tips and advice. I’m not concerned doing the work. More respectful of the weight and asking for tips to folks who have done this before.

It’s also not something a remote changer is gonna work for because it’s gotta come off to access the panel in the wheel-well for installing rear remotes. So I’m not paying someone to come out 2x. At that point might as well have the dealer do it.

I kinda like that pallet jack trick!

 

[Matt Ellerbee]

I use View attachment 86923 d a pallet jack when I installed my wheel spacers, worked like a charm.

This is genius.

 

[SDT]

the best tip of all;

pay someone to do it for you.

I did tractor repair for 30 years. in those 30 years one thing that stuck out at me was when a tractor shows up needing repair and you didn't know the rear tires are loaded. yeah sure, loosen the lug bolts and nuts, then just pull it off right? Yup...then you find out that your normally 350lb tire/wheel assembly is 1200 lbs. Each side. I used to get the new hires (usually the young'ns) to take it off for me as we didn't have any real tooling to speak of. later on they bought some of those fork-over-leg electric (12v) electric pallet stackers and those things are awesome for pulling tires. Wheel it under the tire, either lift the forks or drop the tractor to it, then remove. Roll the whole thing to where you're going and hope there's no zip ties on the floor because even though those pallet stackers will pick up 2200 lbs, they will stop in their tracks when they encounter a zip tie.

one thing worth noting. if you raise the rear of the tractor with the drawbar frame like most folks do, when you remove ONE rear tire (loaded or not but if they're loaded it's even worse), the entire tractor will flop over to the other side. I've seen them fall off the jack because of this. If you have a loader, put the bucket down squarely on the ground before raising the back end and removing a tire. The bucket helps stabilize the whole tractor. That or use jack stands, but the loader bucket works just fine.

Because of all of the "little" things that you have to do when using loaded tires, I typically tried to advise folks not to load them unless absolutely necessary.

We had one tech that went to remove a tire not knowing it was loaded, bigger M series, and it fell on him--broke 2 ribs and lots of bruises. I had to pick the tire up off of him with a fork lift when the medics got there. Wasn't any fun. They can be dangerous so be mindful when "playing' with em.

Agreed, regarding advise against liquid ballast.

I do not use liquid ballast and this is only one of the reasons.

 

[Russell King]

You may be able to use a come-a-long rigged to the rafters to lay the wheel back away from the tractor and then drag it a couple of feet away to do the work. Then drag it back into place and stand it up with the overhead lifting.
Brace the rafters with vertical support as needed