Well, then that sets the value of your opinion, then. If you don't read all of a response, then you're not really fully informed, ergo, not qualified to judge or debate someone else's reasoning.Didn’t read paints response too long.
Repair what?Well, then that sets the value of your opinion, then. If you don't read all of a response, then you're not really fully informed, ergo, not qualified to judge or debate someone else's reasoning.
Poor packaging in this case make the product dangerous to handle at all. It's a heavy piece of steel with extremely sharp edges laid in a cardboard box with nothing to protect the box from the edges, let alone prevent it from penetrating and doing other damage. It's no surprise at all that the box failed. And you don't think BXPanded has any liability for it? Bet you'd have a different opinion if something of yours was destroyed by their bar. But, I guess you must have plenty money to just go buy things over and over again. Some of us must have to work harder for what we get.
I stated all the facts to BXPanded, gave them the same photos I put in this thread, and they should know when a customer is unhappy. To me, that is "ripping" them. I wasn't nasty, but I was very angry. If they don't care, they won't be in business long. I don't think it's fair to me to have to just accept "stuff happens" and eat the cost to repair what someone else did to my home by neglect.
Touche' well done! You must be a professional fisherman. Although my statement in whole reads a lot more accurately than the snip you took out of the middle.Arguing the OP should be ok with having damage to his house is pointless, too, and yet, you posted. Fwiw, I think trolling is more appropriate in a fishing forum.
But you trolled first, and he saw it for exactly what it was. I tried to ignore your ignorance, but he went troll trolling.Touche' well done! You must be a professional fisherman. Although my statement in whole reads a lot more accurately than the snip you took out of the middle.
No, he should rebuild the house if that is what makes him happy. Fix it, don't fix it, wabi-sabi either way. Rebuild the whole porch and then rope it off, never allow it to be used to walk on or put things on again, God forbid the sun hits it from any angle, should probably put a roof over it and a fence around it to just in case - lol.
BXExpanded did not damage anything of his was my point. BX Expanded did not order it and request it be sent to his house, he did.
It's a thought, certainly, and thanks for the suggestion. They're PVC coated for the color, so it's probably going to raise the darker core color. I'm surprised I haven't had the "fill it and paint it" suggestion yet, but maybe some did read that the whole purpose of the stuff was to avoid painting as long as I possibly could. Hopefully, until about 20 years after I'm worm food. Did I mention I HATE painting?what might work on those plastic boards is heating with small hand held propane torch.
at least try on a small test area it may surprise you how it blends from heat
One would think so, but I've found that no one says a word about the box until there's some serious damage. My guess is they're pre-possessed with the sharpness and how easy it is to install. Took me a lot longer to get the tools together than it did to actually install it. But, the packaging comments suddenlyl come outta the woodwork. So far, those that agree that the damage is unacceptable have ALL said the box was shredded when they got the bar. Most seem to have a shop or something like a concrete slab where it gets dropped off, so rarely are they too concerned about a few scratches that won't be visible after a couple weeks. Nor would I be. But the scratches on composite decking aren't going away. I'd be pissed about it on the back side of the house, but could probably live with it. These are right in front of my front door. There is NOTHING in that box to keep the teeth from coming through the side. It's a great product, and I learned to love it in a few minutes. But not enough to excuse the cost to my home. Put this thing in proper packaging, and hands down, best thing on the market for the target purpose. I don't regret my purchase, not at all. I just feel like I'm due recompense for the damage done getting it to me.Doesn't is seem unusual with as many of these tooth bars have been shipped over the years, if there was a problem with inadequate containers used in shipping there would be reviews stating so all over the tractor forums?
The only complaint I've ever read about is in reference to delivery time (and tongue in cheek comments on how sharp the edges are) !
Yup, your response is exactly what I was talking about. I was pretty elated to see it on my porch until I saw what the FedEx driver did. But hey, I'm in fix it mode now. FedEx has called, all apologetic, etc, etc, and going to open a claim, etc etc. I'm not holding my breath, though, as you say.I totally understand where you are coming from, and would probably react the same way if I was in the same situation.
It's sharpness is one of the main reasons it does so well; so sharp, that I feel it needs a guard when not in use.
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I probably would complained or given the packing a bad review IF I had any problems like you experienced, but I did not. We tend to only worry about what affects us personally, but I had no damage or injury, so any concern I might have had was quickly replaced by "I finally got my new toy!" (tool)
I actually worried briefly about any UPS employee's fingers who grabbed that chopped/sliced box.
I also really appreciate the ease of installation and removal, and just take it off when I'm not going to need it.
It is currently off.
Yeah, the cost and reparability were considerations I made as well. The cost was painfully obvious, but I did a lot of research about the wear and durability, and convinced myself it was the way to go. In a way, even though I have a big ugly scratch on the porch now, it still looks a lot better than what the standard pine decking would. There would have been huge splinters pulled up had I used wood out there. I'm not too impressed with pine for decking. Despite being pressure treated, I already have a hole in one of the planks on my back deck where a deck chair poked through it. (rotten) It's only about 6 years old, and while it didn't cost as much as the composite, I did spend some premium dollars getting #1 grade decking to avoid knots and warping. #2 grade has to be put down as soon as you haul it home, or it'll crawl off by itself. Makes me glad I spent the dough on the composite out front.The plastic decking has a lot of advantages but cost and repairabilty are not among them, so I don’t doubt you have a significant repair cost. With the location can also see it being like a chip in your truck’s windshield right in front of your face all the time. If it was over by the rear view mirror it might not bother you but if you’re staring at it routinely it can drive you nuts.
I thought the same thing when I got mine. The mounting flanges will bend outwards toward the sides of the bucket quite easily when you snug it down and remain in that position. You'll only have a bit of a struggle mounting it the first time...BTDTI measured my bucket, and gave 'em the measurements as described, but the bar still seems a tad short. The bolts certainly are. I'm probably going to replace the bolts with some that are about 1/2" longer so it isn't quite so difficult to start the nuts. Dunno if I'll ever use the bucket without the bar, though.