I was out today, bush hoggin with a the junkubota(L2202), on the steepest hill on the place. Had an angle meter, that had a magnet on it to attach it to steel, to measure angles. Don't zackerly know how it got stuffed into that tractor's toolbox, but I mounted it on the hood of said tractor, while mowing said hill. My results are as follows: Your butthole reverses directions, and grabs the seat, like a octopus beak, at right around 35-38 degrees of slope... Hope this clears that up. Gotta change my shorts now... :cheers: