Rattling noise in engine compartment

chim

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Best to have a good assortment of wrenches for working on anything. My first exposure to non-SAE was when I needed to replace a fan belt or something on a relatively new Olds Cutlass S in the early 1980's. Went to K-Mart and bought a cheap set of box wrenches.

Now there are decent sets of SAE, metric, internal and external Torx, etc in the garage. They came in handy when I bought a 95 Wrangler with a blown engine and fixed it. The Jeep used them all.
 

ctfjr

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I appreciate the comment, because I have been switching back and forth between SAE and Metric. I don't have the eyes to see the difference too much, but knowing most everything is metric sure helps.
I have the same issues and have been marking bolts also
 

Downeaster

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I had a complete set of SAE sockets, and wrenches before any of us ever heard of Metric. It's just foolish to have both SAE and Metric in our system.. I am sure the big box stores, auto parts, would disagree, as their socket, wrench inventory for sales would shrink to half. The USA should adopt the Metric system and switch over now. Of course we will have to keep SAE around for a long time, but won't have to purchase double on everything. In 50 years our children will only have to deal with Metrics.
 

cthomas

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Jimmy Carter put us in the US on the path to use the metric system, but, after one week gave up. :ROFLMAO: You think you have it bad with just Metric and SAE. I have worked on early MG's and yes own a set of British standard sockets(BSS I think). And now TORX internal and External(Madza I think did a study and found they save about 14 pounds per vehicle by swapping hex head bolts for E-TORX) Here is a chart I printed out to order sockets by the proper names(think Snap-on tool truck and very expensive). I also have spline, triple square, bristol, polydrive, security Torx, allen(metric and SAE) and tri-wing(Okay, this one was to take my cell phone apart to replace the battery). Also floating around are some home made sockets like a spanner head for GM antenna sockets, oil pump drive, and SAAB ignition switches(I would like to meet the group that thought the ignition switch in the center console was a good idea). I am sure if I cleaned out my socket drawer I would find some more. The system I use is always grab metric first and if it does not fit then go to SAE. Also, I have one of these and it is very handy, well worth the 20 bucks on amazon. Identifies the thread and pitch of nuts and bolts of most things.

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lugbolt

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i do polaris stuff

they often use sae and metric on the same unit. Lots of different sizes. Bolt head might be 15mm, nut might be 9/16 (not 14mm). Lots of 13mm bolt heads with a 12mm nut screwed to the end of it. It can be very frustrating. Lots of torx stuff on Polaris too. I tell all new hires, buy a set of torx, and buy another set of torx because you'll wear out the 25, 27, 30, and especaially the 40 and normally right in the middle of a job. There's T40's on everything! Oh and two pairs of tuflok pliers.

The good thing is that when wrenchin' you can often get away with interchanging 14mm & 9/16 (they are similar). 16mm-5/8. 17mm-11/16. 19mm-3/4. 21mm=13/16". 8mm=5/16". 11mm-7/16. Unfortunately 10mm is by itself. 13mm-1/2". 24mm=15/16. 22mm=7/8. 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, are all alone by themselves. For "most" work interchanging works and I find myself doing it often if I leave a 14mm wrench laying out somwhere and can't remember where I left it, so I grab a 9/16 and take care of the task. Then 5 seconds later that 14mm shows up.
 
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Downeaster

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i do polaris stuff

they often use sae and metric on the same unit. Lots of different sizes. Bolt head might be 15mm, nut might be 9/16 (not 14mm). Lots of 13mm bolt heads with a 12mm nut screwed to the end of it. It can be very frustrating. Lots of torx stuff on Polaris too. I tell all new hires, buy a set of torx, and buy another set of torx because you'll wear out the 25, 27, 30, and especaially the 40 and normally right in the middle of a job. There's T40's on everything! Oh and two pairs of tuflok pliers.

The good thing is that when wrenchin' you can often get away with interchanging 14mm & 9/16 (they are similar). 16mm-5/8. 17mm-11/16. 19mm-3/4. 21mm=13/16". 8mm=5/16". 11mm-7/16. Unfortunately 10mm is by itself. 13mm-1/2". 24mm=15/16. 22mm=7/8. 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, are all alone by themselves. For "most" work interchanging works and I find myself doing it often if I leave a 14mm wrench laying out somwhere and can't remember where I left it, so I grab a 9/16 and take care of the task. Then 5 seconds later that 14mm shows up.
2013 Polaris Ranger here
 

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