Questions from a soon-to-be B7100HST-D owner

torch

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I don't think you can drive over the deck in either direction.
Well Kubota is clearly under the impression you can. From the manual:

(5.1) Attaching the mower.
- put chocks at the gauge wheels
- run the tractor at low speed when riding over the mower.
- put the mower's rear link at its upward position.
- attach the belt cover securely.
- remove all parts attached to the tractor's 3 point hitch before backing over the mower.
Then a pretty picture of the deck (with all wheels chocked in both directions) in front of the tractor with a big arrow and the caption "Drive over forward".

Moving on to removal instructions:
- Block the gauge wheels of the mower deck with the chocks
- run the engine at low speed for the mower removal
- remove all attachments attached to the tractor's 3 point hitch before moving the tractor forward for removal of the mower.
- take the opposite process of 5.1 (2) to (4) for mounting.
Then there's a pretty picture with the deck underneath the mower this time (again, with all wheels chocked in both directions), a big black arrow pointing forward and the caption "Drive over forward".

If it actually works then it seems like the hardest part of the whole process is connecting the PTO. However, when I measure the clearance between the gauge wheel brackets, I get 42". The front wheels are 44" outside to outside and the rear wheels are 45". So you may well be right that this won't work!

One thing that I expected to be mentioned is to raise all the guide wheels so the deck is at minimum height before driving over.
 
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I don't think you can drive over the deck in either direction. I scooted it out sideways ONCE! It wasn't designed for easy maintenance, in my opinion!!
I was cutting grass one day and I got within about 6" of a tarp laying down over something, yup - within a millisecond, that tarp was sucked up and stopped the engine cold.....that was the FIRST $@#% time I had to take the deck off, OMG becky, that was complete pain in the ars. If you try to run the fronts up on something the deck still hits......

the FEL allowed the front end to be lifted to a height of about 12" ...without that I would have been screwed!
 

torch

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I talked to my uncle, the Original Owner, who confirmed that he always drove over the deck, right on up and over the gauge wheel brackets and thought he always ran the front wheels up and over in 4WD, installing or removing. He said he used a couple of short pieces of 1x6 as ramps, but cautioned if they were too long the rear wheels would be on the ramps when the front wheels came off the front of the deck. He also said soft ground worked best so the deck wouldn't just roll away.

The only 1x6 I had was spruce, which just wanted to split when cut that short, so I used a couple of pieces of 3/16" plate around 8" long. That part worked well. I did it on a concrete pad in front of the garage, using wooden wedges to chock the gauge wheels like in the Kubota manual. That part didn't go so well.

One front wheel mounted the deck OK, but the chock on the other side didn't hold so the deck rotated sideways, leaving the tractor with one front wheel on the deck and the other off the ground in front of the deck, diagonally opposite the rear wheel that was now also off the ground, spinning in the breeze. I guess the old guy knew what he was talking about after all... :(

After re-chocking things I got to try the differential lock, and managed to finish the removal.

During the conversation, I learned that the mower mounting bolts had started stripping out the first year he had the tractor. He'd actually been using those pins for most of it's life! He suggested I weld studs in place instead. I opted to try the helicoil route before such a drastic approach, particularly since I want the forward mounting points to double as a FEL mounting point.



After drilling the holes out, I understand why they stripped. Kubota used a cheap, soft steel there. Well, the spring steel heli-coils (installed with red locktite) should provide a more durable thread. Time will tell, but so far, so good:



Unfortunately for me this is Sunday and Kubota suffers from the Japanese obsession with 10mm x 1.25 pitch threads. First I ran out of suitable length bolts and had to start making my own. Then I had to make a couple of nuts. Finally, I ran out of heli-coils and had to make the last two inserts. So 2 of the inserts at the rear are 4140 stressproof instead of spring steel.



I do not have to worry about the bolts rusting, as my assistant (pictured below) ensured that all threads were well-coated with anti-sieze (he also likes to apply the cutting oil at the lathe).



He also insisted on a test ride after we put the tools away. During the ride, I noticed this thing suffers from a speed wobble if it hits a bump at high speed. And by "high" I mean, what, 5mph? I guess it's time to check the WSM and see if there's any way to adjust the steering geometry...
 
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torch

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I dealt with the speed wobble today. First, I followed the WSM instructions for taking up the excess play in the steering box. Then, as I attempted to measure the toe-in I discovered the starboard tie-rod end and the tie-rod itself were both bent -- obviously hit a pole or tree at some point in it's life. So out came the torch and I straightened that out. That set the toe-in to 0, which is in spec, so I left it for now. Finally, I checked the tire pressure and discovered they were pumped up to 30 PSI! I dropped that to 14psi and took it for a test drive.

Success! It handles like a whole new machine, tearing down the pavement pedal to the metal at a vision-blurring 8 or 9 mph with nary a shimmy or a shake.

Also, I remounted the belly mower. This time I parked the mower on the edge of the concrete pad and drove 2 stakes into the ground ahead of it so it could not move. I used my two little steel plate makeshift ramps, set on 4x4 blocks at the rear of the deck and drove forward at idle in low gear in 4WD.

Again, a complete success. The tractor walked up and over the deck like it was nothing. The hardest part was connecting the PTO. However, once I figured out that I had to drop the 3pt first to get clearance over the sway bar and that it's easiest to access the PTO from the port side, it was clear sailing. It should be very easy to pop the mower on and off in the future.