Not your standard "B2650/spacers/MMM" topic...

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Re: Not your standard "B2650/spacers/MMM" topic...

Exact same tire by description, but mine were installed by me after I purchased the tractor with r4 tires. I bought them off Ebay.

I have bora spacers. 1 5/8"

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Re: Not your standard "B2650/spacers/MMM" topic...

Just measured and they are actually 1.5 inches. I don't think the 1/8" is the hiccup though.

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Not your standard "B2650/spacers/MMM" topic...

Exact same tire by description, but mine were installed by me after I purchased the tractor with r4 tires. I bought them off Ebay.

I have bora spacers. 1 5/8"

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Until you measure the actual roll out of the tires, your just chasing ideas. Tire sizes mean jack crap. The “same” size tires, from different manufacturers can be off more then youd think.
 
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The cab version is over 500 pounds heavier, and I would think most of that weight is applied over the rear tires. Could that be squatting the tires out that much more? Seems doubtful, but it is one more difference. If you could get the rear end raised it could easily be proven. That and differences in tire construction may explain it.

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Re: Not your standard "B2650/spacers/MMM" topic...

Until you measure the actual roll out of the tires, your just chasing ideas. Tire sizes mean jack crap. The “same” size tires, from different manufacturers can be off more then youd think.
Granted. But until we can verify that all other aspects are similar, volume of fluid and air, a rollout will tell us what we already know. We already know her tires sit taller than mine. What we need to determine is why.

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I went out to the barn and measured the dimension of my spacer, and it too is 1.5 inches, or at least the visible part.

Eipo, my rims do not have "Titan" stencilled on them. The rim diameter is 17 5/8 ". The depth of center part, a rough measurement of width, is 9". Are they different from yours?
 

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I went out to the barn and measured the dimension of my spacer, and it too is 1.5 inches, or at least the visible part.

Eipo, my rims do not have "Titan" stencilled on them. The rim diameter is 17 5/8 ". The depth of center part, a rough measurement of width, is 9". Are they different from yours?
I think you are on to the answer. I think your track width is different. Eipo had R4 tires. I assume that he had different rims, which could have a different backspace, unless he changed rims as well.

Measure total track width. Get a friend and a couple of 2x4s. Lay them across both tires and measure the actual outside to outside width.

The different brand tires also matter, but I think its track width.
 

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I think you are on to the answer. I think your track width is different. Eipo had R4 tires. I assume that he had different rims, which could have a different backspace, unless he changed rims as well.

Measure total track width. Get a friend and a couple of 2x4s. Lay them across both tires and measure the actual outside to outside width.

The different brand tires also matter, but I think its track width.

both have R3's.....turf tires, however, different brands and perhaps different RC's and aspect ratios(width)
 

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both have R3's.....turf tires, however, different brands and perhaps different RC's and aspect ratios(width)
No the tires are the same brand, Titan, 13.6-16, but if there are other subtle differences that would be revealed by those numbers on the sides, I'd like to know about that. The rims on the other hand, are labeled differently and seem to interface with the tire differently.
 

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both have R3's.....turf tires, however, different brands and perhaps different RC's and aspect ratios(width)
No the tires are the same brand, Titan, 13.6-16, but if there are other subtle differences that would be revealed by those numbers on the sides, I'd like to know about that. See specs above. The rims on the other hand, are labeled differently and seem to interface with the tire differently.
 

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I went out to the barn and measured the dimension of my spacer, and it too is 1.5 inches, or at least the visible part.

Eipo, my rims do not have "Titan" stencilled on them. The rim diameter is 17 5/8 ". The depth of center part, a rough measurement of width, is 9". Are they different from yours?
I will check tomorrow.
 

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No the tires are the same brand, Titan, 13.6-16, but if there are other subtle differences that would be revealed by those numbers on the sides, I'd like to know about that. See specs above. The rims on the other hand, are labeled differently and seem to interface with the tire differently.
All my numbers are the same except for the last 3 of the group that makes up whats in the barcode. Ill get those tomorrow as well. I believe its just a date stamp, though.
 

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No the tires are the same brand, Titan, 13.6-16, but if there are other subtle differences that would be revealed by those numbers on the sides, I'd like to know about that. The rims on the other hand, are labeled differently and seem to interface with the tire differently.
Sounds like you've found the difference.

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Messicks does show 3 different rear wheel options.

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Diameter is the same. Offset is closer to 8"

I also noticed this...

Looks like the wheels are different.
I went out to the barn and measured the dimension of my spacer, and it too is 1.5 inches, or at least the visible part.

Eipo, my rims do not have "Titan" stencilled on them. The rim diameter is 17 5/8 ". The depth of center part, a rough measurement of width, is 9". Are they different from yours?


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Sticker next to the valve stem


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Sticker next to the valve stem
Now you both need to measure the actual total width outside to outside as I previously suggested.

Also, would Sheepfarmer consider removing the spacers? I have spacers on my MX, but that is because of real steep hills. Do the spacers have much merit on Sheepfarmer's property?
 

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After reading through the thread I thought: Is it possible that the driveshaft is binding When lifting the MMM up? Is the PTO shaft locked in place? Is there free play in the shaft went all the way up?
If either of these conditions exist I believe it could force the deck backwards when raised.


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