No 4WD light on MX tractors .... kind of annoying.

mcmxi

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
***Current*** M6060HDC, MX6000HSTC & GL7000 ***Sold*** MX6000HST & BX25TLB
Feb 9, 2021
4,194
4,821
113
NW Montana
I don't think I've ever owned a vehicle that had 4WD that didn't have a 4WD indicator of some sort on the dash.

Current vehicles.

'98 Jeep TJ 4.0L ... check
'98 M1078 LMTV ... check
'02 F250 7.3L ... check
'22 M6060 ... check

but a '21 MX6000 .... nope!

Not a deal breaker but mildly annoying. :whistle:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: 1 user

GeoHorn

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
M4700DT, LA1002FEL, Ferguson5-8B Compactor-Roller, 10KDumpTrailer, RTV-X900
May 18, 2018
5,715
3,034
113
Texas
No indicator….other than putting the manual lever(s) in 4WD: Willys Jeep. 1971 LandCruiser, M4700DT
 

rc51stierhoff

Well-known member

Equipment
B2650, MX6000, (BX sold)
Sep 13, 2021
1,985
2,198
113
Ohio
I consider the manual lever the indicator…same as the transmission shift lever on an MT. There are other indicators beyond the lever for that matter, just not lights.

If you don’t remember the 80s this is from Stripes…
 

Attachments

Matt Ellerbee

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
MX6000
Jun 27, 2019
1,667
1,875
113
Canton, Georgia
I agree, I’ve got way too much other stuff tucked away in my brain to try and remember which way the lever goes for 4wd. Granted, mine rarely comes out of 4wd, but still.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

SDT

Well-known member

Equipment
multiple and various
Apr 15, 2018
3,084
925
113
SE, IN
I don't think I've ever owned a vehicle that had 4WD that didn't have a 4WD indicator of some sort on the dash.

Current vehicles.

'98 Jeep TJ 4.0L ... check
'98 M1078 LMTV ... check
'02 F250 7.3L ... check
'22 M6060 ... check

but a '21 MX6000 .... nope!

Not a deal breaker but mildly annoying. :whistle:
None on GL6060 either.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

mcmxi

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
***Current*** M6060HDC, MX6000HSTC & GL7000 ***Sold*** MX6000HST & BX25TLB
Feb 9, 2021
4,194
4,821
113
NW Montana
I consider the manual lever the indicator…same as the transmission shift lever on an MT. There are other indicators beyond the lever for that matter, just not lights.

If you don’t remember the 80s this is from Stripes…
I have a light to tell me when the parking brake is on. I do like the 4WD indicator in the M6060 even though it's much easier to see that 4WD is engaged on that tractor. I have to remember that lever up is 4WD on the MX but the lever isn't in the most convenient spot to grab or see. A dash light would have been nice to have. That's all I'm saying. :)
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: 2 users

rc51stierhoff

Well-known member

Equipment
B2650, MX6000, (BX sold)
Sep 13, 2021
1,985
2,198
113
Ohio
I have a light to tell me when the parking brake is on. I do like the 4WD indicator in the M6060 even though it's much easier to see that 4WD is engaged on that tractor. I have to remember that up is 4WD on the MX and the lever isn't in the most convenient spot to grab or see. A dash light would have been nice to have. That's all I'm saying. :)
Agreed. I’d love a parking brake light on my B. For that matter I’d like to see the actual headlights mounted in a more useful way (I assume more than just myself have a loader on their tractor when headlights are needed…bucket is just in the way ).
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

GreensvilleJay

Well-known member

Equipment
BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
Apr 2, 2019
9,909
4,063
113
Greensville,Ontario,Canada
My '57 Willys 4WD pickup didn't have a 4WD idiot light though it did have 7 sticks on the tunnel.
Made for some 'interesting' shift patterns....
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

woodman55

Well-known member

Equipment
L6060HSTC, RTV 1100
May 15, 2022
730
522
93
canada
No 4x4 dash light on the grand L either, rather cheap of kubota if you ask me. There is also a recess in the knob of the lever for a emblem that they could of used, instead of a cheap little sticker stuck to the body of the cab.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

RCW

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
BX2360, FEL, MMM, BX2750D snowblower. 1953 Minneapolis Moline ZAU
Apr 28, 2013
8,386
4,031
113
Chenango County, NY
Not one of my Chevy pickup trucks have had a 4WD dash light… simply where the knob is pointing.

Now, if you turn off the nuisance Traction Control thing, there’s all sorts of lights and stuff…
 
  • Haha
Reactions: 1 user

NCL4701

Well-known member

Equipment
L4701, T2290, WC68, grapple, BB1572, Farmi W50R, Howes 500, 16kW IMD gen, WG24
Apr 27, 2020
2,534
3,618
113
Central Piedmont, NC
After about 350 hours I can now look at the shift lever on mine and tell if it’s in 2WD or 4WD. It isn’t at the bottom of the slot in 2WD and isn’t at the top of the slot in 4WD. There’s maybe 1” of movement from one position to the other. I’ve never measured but it ain’t much when you’re looking straight down on it to determine position. Works well, position just isn’t particularly clearly indicated.

For quite a while if I didn’t remember what position it was in from last time I’d used it, I’d raise the front wheels with the loader and see which way the shifter was willing to move. I can now just look at it, but no one else that uses it can.

It isn’t so much a problem, it’s just kind of surprising to the point of being a bit silly on a machine that otherwise seems to be so well thought out. If it was on something like my old MTD Yardman riding mower, I wouldn’t think it odd at all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

mcmxi

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
***Current*** M6060HDC, MX6000HSTC & GL7000 ***Sold*** MX6000HST & BX25TLB
Feb 9, 2021
4,194
4,821
113
NW Montana
No 4x4 dash light on the grand L either, rather cheap of kubota if you ask me. There is also a recess in the knob of the lever for a emblem that they could of used, instead of a cheap little sticker stuck to the body of the cab.
That's really surprising for the Grand L series which is packed full of high-end features.

I had an MX6000 open station for a year and around 110 hours of use, and now have 100 hours on the MX6000 with cab, but it's only after buying and using the M6060 that the glaring omission of a 4WD light on the dash bothered me enough to mention it. Every time I get in the M6060 and see the 4WD light and then get in the MX and don't see it I'm reminded about it. As I said, not a deal breaker by any stretch because the MX is such a good tractor, but if there's any kind of electrical circuit for the 4WD in the MX I'd consider adding an LED to the dash via a relay that would illuminate when 4WD is engaged and the ignition on. I have this set up for the radiator fan in my F250. I replaced the viscous clutch on the fan with an electric clutch tied into a coolant temperature sensor and a manual switch. The point is to reduce drag when the fan isn't needed.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

jyoutz

Well-known member

Equipment
MX6000 HST open station, FEL, 6’ cutter, forks, 8’ rear blade, 7’ cultivator
Jan 14, 2019
2,503
1,608
113
Edgewood, New Mexico
That's really surprising for the Grand L series which is packed full of high-end features.

I had an MX6000 open station for a year and around 110 hours of use, and now have 100 hours on the MX6000 with cab, but it's only after buying and using the M6060 that the glaring omission of a 4WD light on the dash bothered me enough to mention it. Every time I get in the M6060 and see the 4WD light and then get in the MX and don't see it I'm reminded about it. As I said, not a deal breaker by any stretch because the MX is such a good tractor, but if there's any kind of electrical circuit for the 4WD in the MX I'd consider adding an LED to the dash via a relay that would illuminate when 4WD is engaged and the ignition on. I have this set up for the radiator fan in my F250. I replaced the viscous clutch on the fan with an electric clutch tied into a coolant temperature sensor and a manual switch. The point is to reduce drag when the fan isn't needed.
Just another light to burn out. I prefer just checking the lever. My Jeep indicator light for 4wd quit working.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

BAP

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
2012 Kubota 2920, 60MMM, FEL, BH65 48" Bush Hog, 60"Backblade, B2782B Snowblower
Dec 31, 2012
2,531
670
113
New Hampshire
People have gotten so soft that they expect Idiot Lights to tell them everything. Every little electronic gadget is one more thing to break and one more thing to add to the expense of the tractor.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

mcmxi

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
***Current*** M6060HDC, MX6000HSTC & GL7000 ***Sold*** MX6000HST & BX25TLB
Feb 9, 2021
4,194
4,821
113
NW Montana
Just another light to burn out. I prefer just checking the lever. My Jeep indicator light for 4wd quit working.
I've never had a 4WD light burn out. I drive a '98 Jeep TJ (had for 22 years) and an'02 F250 and haven't lost any lights in the dash display. Even the '98 LMTV stuff still works. The argument that an indicator tight is a bad thing because it can fail at some point can be applied to anything in life.
 

mcmxi

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
***Current*** M6060HDC, MX6000HSTC & GL7000 ***Sold*** MX6000HST & BX25TLB
Feb 9, 2021
4,194
4,821
113
NW Montana
People have gotten so soft that they expect Idiot Lights to tell them everything. Every little electronic gadget is one more thing to break and one more thing to add to the expense of the tractor.
Yeah, an engine warning light is for softies, along with seat belts, shift on the fly, airbags, tachometers, pryometers and on an on. Heck, maybe I shouldn't wear shoes today as I head down to Missoula for lunch. I'll walk around main street in my bare feet and snarl at anyone who is wearing a hat, coat and shoes. Pussies!! :rolleyes:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: 1 user

jyoutz

Well-known member

Equipment
MX6000 HST open station, FEL, 6’ cutter, forks, 8’ rear blade, 7’ cultivator
Jan 14, 2019
2,503
1,608
113
Edgewood, New Mexico
I've never had a 4WD light burn out. I drive a '98 Jeep TJ (had for 22 years) and an'02 F250 and haven't lost any lights in the dash display. Even the '98 LMTV stuff still works. The argument that an indicator tight is a bad thing because it can fail at some point can be applied to anything in life.
Maybe so. It is something I don’t need because I can just check the lever.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

PoTreeBoy

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
L35 Ford 3930
Mar 24, 2020
2,419
1,239
113
WestTn/NoMs
I have a light to tell me when the parking brake is on. I do like the 4WD indicator in the M6060 even though it's much easier to see that 4WD is engaged on that tractor. I have to remember that lever up is 4WD on the MX but the lever isn't in the most convenient spot to grab or see. A dash light would have been nice to have. That's all I'm saying. :)
If you're into Amazon, you can search FILN for LED indicators in various sizes and colors with over 100 symbols you can choose. I bought 1/2" red, but I haven't installed it yet. Might look at m6060 parts at the switch arrangement.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

mikester

Well-known member

Equipment
M59 TLB
Oct 21, 2017
3,148
1,626
113
Canada
www.divergentstuff.ca
I don't think I've ever owned a vehicle that had 4WD that didn't have a 4WD indicator of some sort on the dash.

Current vehicles.

'98 Jeep TJ 4.0L ... check
'98 M1078 LMTV ... check
'02 F250 7.3L ... check
'22 M6060 ... check

but a '21 MX6000 .... nope!

Not a deal breaker but mildly annoying. :whistle:
Some of us still use analogue clocks and don't have a problem reading dial gauges. LEVER OUT = FWD ON works for me

I am more upset that K puts cheap back breaker seats with no suspension designed for users 5 feet tall weighing 90 lbs
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 users