Looking for clever hood handle idea

Dontwannaflip

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I thought about putting a loop of parachute cord at the handhold for lifting the hood(bonnet), then I thought I would ask the group here if anyone has a better idea.

Maybe a standard cabinet door handle from the hardware store? I think the holes are about 5/32"

That handhold is really slippery when it has a fresh coat of wax on it! :)
 

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Besides being slippery, grabbing that spot around the brush guard on these B tractors is at an awkward angle for lifting. The hood is surprisingly heavy. Anyone ever find a spring assist hinge that will fit in there? The car sized ones look to be too big.
 

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Besides being slippery, grabbing that spot around the brush guard on these B tractors is at an awkward angle for lifting. The hood is surprisingly heavy. Anyone ever find a spring assist hinge that will fit in there? The car sized ones look to be too big.
The spring assist idea sounds interesting, but what about a pneumatic hood strut? I have them on my Tundra and on my canopy. When I looked for replacements for another application, it looked like there were tons of configurations available. Would have to noodle out the attachment points and maybe do a little fab to get them set up, but might be a fun project.

Might be able to set one up that holds the hood open a little more than with the stock hood holder rod.


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Dontwannaflip

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All good ideas, thanks everyone.

You're not kidding about the brush guard making it awkward. The adjustment on my hood latch is such that I need to pull the release with one hand and try to lift the slippery hand hold with the other.

Something like a spring assist/gas cylinder would be great. The existing bracketing for the hood prop would be perfect for accommodating something like that if the right sized cylinder could be found. I guesstimate that 13" open and 8" retracted would work.
 

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I like the strut idea! A pair at tne right angle might work! Anyone that gets going on this please post pictures :):)
 

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I hastily threw together a McMaster order. I plan to keep the factory prop in place as a safety device while using it and the existing brackets as the strut end points. The dimension specs for the struts are tricky, I don't think I can get the ideal size, so I might need to sacrifice opening length. I'm ordering a 50lbf strut. If I get something to work, I'll forward details and pics.
 

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For the handle you might look at canoe or kayak handles


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A little bend here and there and a couple twists and a piece of 1" flat bar would work. Myself, two pieces of flat stock and a chain shaped in the form of a handle with links welded together. Any time i use welded chain its old rusty stuff that i sandblast .weld and paint.
 

Dontwannaflip

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My "gas spring" and a couple brackets arrived from McMaster. Looks encouraging, but I won't be able to do much with it for a few days. I don't think they make a perfect sized gas spring for my planned attach points: 1) small-enough when compressed to close the hood and 2) large enough to allow the stock hood prop to engage when open.

I might need to get another stock hood prop and make it a little shorter.
 

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And then there is the problem of what to attach it or them to... I have been staring at mine wondering what is strong enough to mount to and clear all tne stuff under the hood..:confused::confused:
 

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I'm planning to use the stock hood prop bracket for the hood attachment point. I have included a pic that shows it temporarily installed. The pic was taken looking backward toward the firewall and up into the open hood. Not sure what to do with lower attach point, but I have a bracket on-hand that I can probably use. The metal fixture mounted right on the engine is very stout and I'll figure out a way to attach the lower bracket to that fixture.

One concern I have is with the stock hood prop bracket-- it is affixed to the hood with (I assume) Very-High Bond (VHB) adhesive tape. This should be fine when the force is at right angles ("normal" to the hood surface) as when the hood is open. But when the hood is closed and the max force is on the bracket, the force is more like 45 degrees to "normal." There's a chance that after a long time under stress or when hot/cold the adhesive or tape itself might fail and rip the bracket off the hood.

Another concern I have is with the stock hood prop-- I want to still be able to use it as a safety catch to hold the hood up during simple maintenance. I might need to shorten the hood prop in order to get it to work like that. I would cut it in half, remove an inch or two, cut threads in both cut ends, and use a coupling nut and jam nuts to rejoin it and have it be adjustable for that perfect fit.

Last concern (so far) is that the hood-close latch might spring open during tractor operations. I'm using a single 50 lbf gas spring, which is almost perfect to balance against the weight of the hood. It feels like it wants to pop that latch. I might have a way around this though.
 

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Good progress! What is the spring for? I think the layout under the hood on yours is different from mine.
 

Dontwannaflip

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SheepFarmer, this is on a B2601. The metal spring is actually going from the stock hood prop to the metal bracket you see bolted to the firewall. The gas spring is blocking that detail in the picture. The metal spring keeps the prop from flopping around and probably more importantly, it keeps the prop "latched" when in the hood-up position. Sounds like my setup might not directly translate to your machines. I'll post some additional pictures in a few days that might help illustrate better for those with B2601's. Gotta focus on my pesky day job for a bit! :rolleyes:
 

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Well, I'm back to the drawing board regarding my "simple" B2601 hood lift mod project. My fear of the mounting tape failing where the stock bracket attaches to the underside of the hood was warranted. I didn't actually let it fail completely, so I need to decide if I want to reverse my changes and give up, or go deeper in by carefully removing the bracket and replacing the tape with something like structural epoxy. Most places seem to want almost $200 for that stupid bracket so I don't want to mess it up. (or the hood:eek:) I'll probably continue after I research a little more about 3M structural epoxies (or similar).

On the other hand, I could just take that 6" piece of parachute cord and make two knots for the handle I wanted in the first place . . .