JD 750 problems- what would you pay?

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This is a post I made on mytractorfurum. I thought that I would post it here, too, in case anyone can give helpful insight. And, please, no flaming JD. After scouring over the tractor, I do prefer my Kubota- no doubt. Not just because of condition, but because of design. I always have prefered Kubota over Yanmar. But, given that, it still is a worthy piece of machinery.


A man that I go to church with is buying a house near me. The current owner lives in Utah now (I am in VA). Along with the house for sale is a JD 750 4WD with loader, scraper blade, and bushhog. The owner is asking $3000.00 for the combo.
The tractor has been sitting for a while. The owner gave the potential buyer and myself permission to get it running and check things out, in his absence.
We went to the house yesterday evening to jump start it. It starts up and funs smooth, the exhaust cleared out fine, and it sounds good. The loader raises and lowers, the 3 point hitch and pto work, all gears work, and 4WD seems to be fine. The tractor has the typical dirt and grime, but otherwise looks to be in good shape. The front tires are about 30%, and the rear 75%.

Here is the bad. The tach cable seems to be broken. The hour meter shows 2200 hours, but who knows how many are on it. We haven't spoken to the owner, but he hasn't owned the tractor that awful long- he may not know the accurate hours.
When you lower the loader and try to lift the front of the tractor, it won't. It has enough hydraulic fluid, but I believe it has a problem in the valve. You can lower the frame all the way down, and with the lift valve in the neutral position, when you curl the bucket down, it raises the loader frame/evacuates the fluid out of the lift cylinders. Make sense? It must be leaking back through the valve. I would imagine that it will only lift so much, because of the leak.
The steering gearbox has a lot of play, and all the tie rod ends are bad. When you turn left and right on the steering, the entire front axle moves forward and backward on the pivot pin about a 1/4 inch. We couldn't get the front end up to check the kingpins.
The brakes work, but they are hanging bad. Sometimes they free, other times you have to put the tractor in low range to get it moving, and it won't drift down the steep drive. I assume that some work and use on them might free them up.
The tractor won't shut off. You can pull the throttle all the way back, and it lops real slow, but won't cut off. There is no manual shut off (to the valvetrain). Also, it revs up and slows down on its own, without throttle input. And, once it was good and warmed up, at high rpm, it has a miss. So, I am assuming that it has injection pump issues.
At this point, that is about all that we've found. It is missing a panel below the steering wheel, with some wires dangling- can anyone fill me in on what goes there?
At a price of $3000, which I assume he set because he knew it had problems but didn't inform the potential buyer, how much, big ballpark, might be needed to spend to get it in better shape? Is $3000 a fair price in the current condition, or is a lower price more in line? Of course, I'm not asking so that the buyer can lowball the owner- the buyer is trying to decide how much may be in the tractor when it's all said and done, and if it will be worth it. This is mountain land he is buying, and the 750 is real narrow. So, it isn't ideal. Therefore, there may be a better deal and a better tractor out there for him.
Thanks- any input is helpful. I am a kubota guy myself, but I love and appreciate any tractor. I like the tractor, and at the right price, I'd take it. I would have to know more, though, about hours, previous owner, and potential money and issues with the injection pump.
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The potential buyer contacted the owner, and told him he was going to pass, and the owner lowered his price (I don't know how much). That begs the question- if the price is low enough, how much can be expected to spend, ballpark, on the listed issues? Barring no other problems, how low will the price need to be to make it a safe purchase, relatively? Any insight is helpful.
 

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Sounds like my old Chevy truck,, did I want to spend 3000 on a tranmishion for a 1500 truck,, see what Im saying is even if he should get it for 2000 and winds up putting 2000 back in to it, its still a 2000 dollar tractor and GKW else is goin south on it,,, Just MHO you understand,, my self I would pass
 

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Sounds like my old Chevy truck,, did I want to spend 3000 on a tranmishion for a 1500 truck,, see what Im saying is even if he should get it for 2000 and winds up putting 2000 back in to it, its still a 2000 dollar tractor and GKW else is goin south on it,,, Just MHO you understand,, my self I would pass
That's where I'm at, Skeets. Not knowing the hours bothers me- it could have 3 or 4 thousand on the tractor, who knows? I have searched some, and the 750 with reasonable hours are selling for $7000 or so.
 

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I can tell you this much from experience of owning a little JD riding lawnmower YEARS ago and seeing what my friend spends on his JD skid-steer, parts for these things are not cheap by any means. And since James River Equipment is 12 miles from you they are expensive as hell in their parts dept and they are awfully proud of their brand. I know a few weeks ago I went with my friend who runs a JD skid steer in his tree company, to our local James River dealer and we we're there for over an hour trying to find hydraulic hose quick connect couplings for his grapple bucket and I think he spent damn near 200 bucks on couplers. Parts for anything JD are a bit more costly and I've noticed a large majority of parts you can not find after-market for JD.

I'd say walk away from the deal and keep your eyes peeled for something better to come along. Finding a decent tractor used in your neck of the woods across the mountain and in the country should be an easier find then for me down here in the urban area.
 

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Hey, Eric, I know where there's a re-badged Yanmar for sale, 4WD with a loader. For the right price, he'd probably have it painted orange for ya! How many coats of paint would it take to cover up green?

The interested buyer has found a new injection pump for $400. I think he is weighing his options, in case the owner comes down more on the price. Me, I think that I would continue looking. The tractor runs and operates, but shows signs of wear and neglect. That can be fixed, but the narrow wheelbase can't. The tires aren't loaded yet, and it doesn't have wheel weights, which would help. It's just a really narrow tractor.
 

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It has worked itself out. The owner was desperate to sell, so he offered it to the buyer for $500. A new injection pump is $450, the valve is rebuildable, as well as the steering, and unless something catastophic comes up, he will have a fair to good condition JD 750 with loader and implements for less than $3000.
Which brings up a hypothetic question, with moral implications- Eric, would you have bought a running, 4WD, loader equiped John Deere for $500?

I know that Eric is orange-loyal to the bone. So, my answer to the dilemma would be; buy the tractor, fix it, sell it for a profit, and then buy the Kubota he wants.
 

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Given if I had the money yeah I might have snatched it up. One of two things would have happened, either I would have done like you mentioned and fixed it up and sold it for a profit and get something from Kubota I want OR I'd take it and part it out and make some money that way as well. I doubt I'd hang onto it for personal use.