Does anyone know what the stock BX23S front bucket weighs?
looking around for a SSQA root grapple..... like to compare weights...
looking around for a SSQA root grapple..... like to compare weights...
BX23s loader bucket weight?
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LOADER MODEL LA340 LA340S
MODEL SQUARE 48"
TYPE RIGID QUICK HITCH
WIDTH mm (in.) 1219 (48.0)
DEPTH (L) mm (in.) 491 (19.3) 470 (18.5)
HEIGHT (M) mm (in.) 465 (18.3) 523 (20.6)
LENGTH (N) mm (in.) 538 (21.2) 586 (23.1)
CAPACITY
STRUCK m (CU.FT.) 0.14 (4.9) 0.13 (4.6)
HEAPED m (CU.FT.) 0.17 (6.0)
WEIGHT kg (lbs.) 60 (132) 56 (123)
MODEL SQUARE 48"
TYPE RIGID QUICK HITCH
WIDTH mm (in.) 1219 (48.0)
DEPTH (L) mm (in.) 491 (19.3) 470 (18.5)
HEIGHT (M) mm (in.) 465 (18.3) 523 (20.6)
LENGTH (N) mm (in.) 538 (21.2) 586 (23.1)
CAPACITY
STRUCK m (CU.FT.) 0.14 (4.9) 0.13 (4.6)
HEAPED m (CU.FT.) 0.17 (6.0)
WEIGHT kg (lbs.) 60 (132) 56 (123)
GreensvilleJay
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yes, while the SSQA bucket weighs less, you need to SUBTRACT the weight of the SSQA adapter from the 'what will the loader lift' value..... THAT is the number that guys whine about when saying SSAQ can't lift as much as pinon.
If you're just looking to rip roots out of the ground that rock bucket may do the job for you. Mine does a fantastic job.
Grabbing stuff it obviously can't do.
I'm just sniffing around to see what buckets weigh as a comparison ... because I would really like a grapple to mostly help with firewood logs....
but most I see are around 350lbs I found a few in the 200-260 range.... but most are $2-3k
right now I use forks... but it's a pain in the sack when they roll off.... I could make a small hydraulic grapple finger to hold them...... BUT I kinda over engineered the forks and they are a bit heavy "as-is"
I might just make my own bolt on small finger for the bucket...... and also make it adaptable so's I kin also bolt it onto the forks and give it a go...... see how it works.
so anyway, thats whats in my brain right now.
something like this here....
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to 'carry firewood logs', a good option is a 'pallet fork' unit.
Mine's on 50/50 with the bucket... 900# HLA unit with 36" forks.
You can easily get 4-5 logs on, then curl all the way back and carry them to the destination
If you want add a strap or two but one you get familiar with the forks, you won't need straps... unless you're on rather bouncy ground.
I've also used mine to 'push back' Mother Nature gaining almost 2 acres of farmland. BTW I HATE wild grape vines......
Mine's on 50/50 with the bucket... 900# HLA unit with 36" forks.
You can easily get 4-5 logs on, then curl all the way back and carry them to the destination
If you want add a strap or two but one you get familiar with the forks, you won't need straps... unless you're on rather bouncy ground.
I've also used mine to 'push back' Mother Nature gaining almost 2 acres of farmland. BTW I HATE wild grape vines......
I do have forks and they work ok
but a small grapple for the bucket would be handy also.
Maybe someday I WILL spring for a full size grapple.... can't have enough implements
but for now I'm just lookin to 'prolly' build a small grapple (thumb) for the bucket...... removable would be nice also.
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Negative, the loader was equipped with SSQA so the documented lift amount does not change.
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GreensvilleJay
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well I'm confused.....
seems the SSQA bucket is 4# lighter than 4pin, so WHY to guys keep posting SSQA can't lift as much ? 'They' say 100# less, which I assumed was the SSQA frame weight
seems the SSQA bucket is 4# lighter than 4pin, so WHY to guys keep posting SSQA can't lift as much ? 'They' say 100# less, which I assumed was the SSQA frame weight
I haven't needed a grapple for logs, just my pallet forks.
The only times I could see a grapple being useful for logs is
-If the log is downhill of the implement
-If you don't want the log to roll off the forks when you drop it; you want to drop it straight down.
I can't imagine a bucket, even with a grapple, being very good for picking up logs.
For other stuff (with a grapple), sure.
A weaker (lighter?) grapple could have no problem simply holding something in position, just clamping down on top of it.
If you tried to move/lift something heavier into the bucket it may not be able to do that.
Another reason to recommend that rock bucket (with removable sides) though.
With the rock bucket and the sides removed you can fit longer things on/in the bucket. And the grapple would help hold them in if needed.
The rock bucket would also probably be better for grabbing things than a regular bucket.
I hate to say it, but this is incorrect.
The loader with the SSQA has a lower lift capacity than the loader without the SSQA. Because of the added weight of the SSQA.
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You need to read what I wrote:
North Idaho Wolfman said:
Negative, the loader was equipped with SSQA so the documented lift amount does not change.
I never said that an SSQA does not lower the lift amount.
I said that what is documented does not change.
True. Your statement is technically correct. Except for the "Negative".
My statement was in context with the quote you answered in your post (that quote didn't follow when I quoted you).
Your statement implied his was incorrect when it was actually correct.
The statement you were answering was talking about the difference in capacity between the loader with the SSQA and the loader without (SSQA vs pin on).
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I think you're missing this part.
Comparison of SSQA loader vs pin on loader lift capacity.
Not simply SSQA loader lift capacity.
The 2 loaders are effectively identical except for the SSQA attachment. Remove the attachment and you have the pin on loader, with the higher non SSQA loader lift capacity.
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You need to go back and read the first 4 posts in this thread and you will understand (or you should) why his statement is wrong.
Let's try it this way.
In the first post OP asked about bucket weight.
In the second post he was given bucket weight for for both pin on and SSQA buckets.
In the third post he then said this regarding the 2 weights.
(4th post is actually irrelevant to this)
This has one of two meanings as far as I can tell.
A - He was thinking of the difference in lift capacity between the pin on and SSQA loaders, and had previously thought the bucket weight was the cause of the lower capacity of the SSQA loader, and so was surprised to see the SSQA bucket was actually lighter than the pin on bucket.
OR
B - He was just surprised the SSQA bucket was lighter than the pin on bucket.
The way I read it, Jay took the OPs meaning as option A, and replied;
If the OP meant option A, Jays answer, while not completely clear, is correct. He's explaining that the capacity difference is due to the addition of the SSQA adapter, and not due to bucket weight.
If the OP meant option B, Jays answer doesn't apply, but is still correct. He's explaining that the capacity difference is due to the addition of the SSQA adapter.
You then told Jay his answer was incorrect.
Then I told you that you were incorrect, ect.
If I'm missing something please explain.
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I can't state it any other way:
Greenvillejay said that he needs to subtract the weight of the SSQA Adapter, to get the loader lift value.
The loader lift value is already stated no subtracting is required!
Greenvillejay said that he needs to subtract the weight of the SSQA Adapter, to get the loader lift value.
The loader lift value is already stated no subtracting is required!