BX23S can't lift front bucket loaded with gravel

Soopitup

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yes, it is a lite 'light' in lifting.
the spec of 700#(?) is AT the loader frame AND include the weight of the bucket,so realistically about 500# 'payload', so always fully curl back to get max.
if you're moving patio stones, put them in vertically not laying down,you can carry more.
when you decide you need pallet forks,get the lightest ones possible. I have HLA 900# unit,which is overkill and NO need for 2000# forks.
Don't forget if he has the SSAQ attachment that adds more weight to the bucket.
 

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Yup once I herd curl but not lift I’m betting you just found your max lifting capabilities. My m7060 will do this if I’m moving wet stone dust and get to excited filling the bucket. I have seen on most m7060s and in the factory books paper stuff the La1154 FEL was always referenced but Kubota also offered the m series loaders and I got the m21. More lifting power then the La1154 plus a bigger bucket. It’s not actually made by kubota it’s made by Quicke loaders in Sweden. It’s even stamped on my loader plate made in Sweden. This is the book I got for it but little info online about the loader under kubotas name. So even upgrading you still hit your limits. I see other bx owners saying you should be able to lift it no problem or that theirs can but to me it seems in the specs of what it says. Maybe they have a different loader installed like I did.
 

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My BX1860 can lift heaping buckets of sand, gravel, rocks, all day long. I don't have any pictures of lifting sand or gravel but here are some of it with rocks.
 

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I KNOW my BX23s lifted the rear set of duals (2 tires,rims and brake assy) from a dumptruck one day. OK, it was struggle and only about 4" off the ground but it did carry them,up a bloody long steep grade too !
according to the manual, max lift is 700#, take off 120 for the bucket, another 120(?) for the SSQA frame makes for a 460# payload AT THE FRAME, you lose a lot at the front tip of the bucket.From memory, it couldn't carry 5 'big' patio stones ( 80# each), laying flat BUT no problem if vertical,back against the SSQA frame.
yes, it would be nice to haul more BUT front tires aren't rated for much !!
 

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My BX1860 can lift heaping buckets of sand, gravel, rocks, all day long. I don't have any pictures of lifting sand or gravel but here are some of it with rocks.
You also have a pin on bucket.
SSQA is like 80lbs I believe?
 
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re: Post # 7..
the lower picture as I USE my SCUT BX23s for more than carrying some silly flowers !

btw how DID THEY GET IT in THERE ???
 

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My BX1860 can lift heaping buckets of sand, gravel, rocks
Your bx1860 has a LA203 loader and his bx23s I’m assuming has a LA340or LA340s depending on quick connect or not. Your bucket is 4.2 cu.ft struck or 4.9cu.ft heaped. The LA340 is 4.6cu.ft struck and 6cu.ft heaped. Both look to have the same lift capacity so that extra cu.ft is gonna affect a load. No idea what those rocks weigh in your pics but looks like your bx has it covered. It’s more about the loader model and less about the bx.
 

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armylifer

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Your bx1860 has a LA203 loader and his bx23s I’m assuming has a LA340or LA340s depending on quick connect or not. Your bucket is 4.2 cu.ft struck or 4.9cu.ft heaped. The LA340 is 4.6cu.ft struck and 6cu.ft heaped. Both look to have the same lift capacity so that extra cu.ft is gonna affect a load. No idea what ththanks ose rocks weigh in your pics but looks like your bx has it covered. It’s more about the loader model and less about the bx.
That is some great information. Thanks! My thought was that by the op's description he should probably check his hydraulic pressure. I was merely showing that a near similar tractor can carry heavier loads than what he described.

Today I happened to be doing some rock work after I posted those pictures. I took a picture of me lifting and carrying a bucket load of 1.25" clean blue rock. I also changed to my rock bucket which is the same size bucket he has on his BX23S. I am attaching those pictures. Maybe these are closer to the kind of loads he should expect to be able to carry.

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I put a 55" grapple on mine and was able to lift railroad ties. That with a bx-2680. I have to keep the revs up.
I was losing lift in the spring and had my 50-hour tractor serviced. We found some algae in the hydraulic fluid. It also was very foamy.
I changed out all the filters and replaced the fluid and it works like a charm.
 

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That is some great information. Thanks! My thought was that by the op's description he should probably check his hydraulic pressure. I was merely showing that a near similar tractor can carry heavier loads than what he described.

Today I happened to be doing some rock work after I posted those pictures. I took a picture of me lifting and carrying a bucket load of 1.25" clean blue rock. I also changed to my rock bucket which is the same size bucket he has on his BX23S. I am attaching those pictures. Maybe these are closer to the kind of loads he should expect to be able to carry.
Love the glove holder. I always seem to lose one....especially late fall/early spring
 

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That is some great information. Thanks! My thought was that by the op's description he should probably check his hydraulic pressure. I was merely showing that a near similar tractor can carry heavier loads than what he described.

Today I happened to be doing some rock work after I posted those pictures. I took a picture of me lifting and carrying a bucket load of 1.25" clean blue rock. I also changed to my rock bucket which is the same size bucket he has on his BX23S. I am attaching those pictures. Maybe these are closer to the kind of loads he should expect to be able to carry.

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Standard retired army dude ammo can tool box. I got the 50 cal version. Holds more stuff
 

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Standard retired army dude ammo can tool box. I got the 50 cal version. Holds more stuff
Yeah, I have the larger ones too but they don't fit where I have these mounted. I have one on each side of the tractor in the same position.
 
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Yeah, I have the larger ones too but they don't fit where I have these mounted. I have one on each side of the tractor in the same position.
No matter the size they make awesome tractor tool boxes.
 
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When you say it won't lift it, do you mean when you are getting a scoop from the pile or after you have a bucket full away from the pile?

I have moved/spread 40 tons of topsoil and 30 tons of gravel this past year with my BX2200. Once I had a bucket full I had no issue lifting it etc. The trick was getting the scoop out of the pile. Just burying the bucket in the pile I wasn't able to just lift out a scoop. Had to combine forward movement and forward motion to finesse it. Just trying to lift it in the pile meant I was lifting the bucket full and all the resistance/weight of the material above it. Once I got the hang of it I easily got full buckets.

Having a pressure test gauge from BXPanded (of another place) is always a good thing to have in your tool box. You can check your pressure. Sometimes it is low from the factory. If it is boost it up to about 2000psi. That seems to be a safe pressure. I raised mine from 1700 to 2000 and there was a noticeable difference. Just make sure you have proper ballast and keep the FEL as low as possible