B2601 Treadle Pedal hard to use

armylifer

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I am wondering if you will also have to replace the spring for the forward pedal. I am thinking that the springs may have to be the same tension to prevent creep in the forward direction if you only replace the spring for the rear pedal.
 

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I am wondering if you will also have to replace the spring for the forward pedal. I am thinking that the springs may have to be the same tension to prevent creep in the forward direction if you only replace the spring for the rear pedal.
I have seen both springs and they are not same as one another. Front spring looked smaller then the rear spring. Makes me wonder why they put two different springs on to begin with.
 

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I have seen both springs and they are not same as one another. Front spring looked smaller then the rear spring. Makes me wonder why they put two different springs on to begin with.
Are you sure that both of the springs have a different tension? Things like the thickness of the springs increase or decrease tension. Also the temper of the steel can affect the tension. Just because one is shorter than the other does not mean they have different tension.
 

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Are you sure that both of the springs have a different tension? Things like the thickness of the springs increase or decrease tension. Also the temper of the steel can affect the tension. Just because one is shorter than the other does not mean they have different tension.
NO, I am not sure at all at this point. I will need to take them off to have better look before I can know anything.
 

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NO, I am not sure at all at this point. I will need to take them off to have better look before I can know anything.
I am interested in knowing what you find out. Although my pedal is not as hard to push as what you describe, mine is harder than I like. If you end up getting a pedal pressure that is significantly lighter to push than it is now, I want to make the same mod to my tractor too.
 

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I am interested in knowing what you find out. Although my pedal is not as hard to push as what you describe, mine is harder than I like. If you end up getting a pedal pressure that is significantly lighter to push than it is now, I want to make the same mod to my tractor too.
My pedal has seemed to loosen up but only a very small amount. It is still not even close to how I want it so I will not yet give in and accept how stiff it is.
 

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My pedal has seemed to loosen up but only a very small amount. It is still not even close to how I want it so I will not yet give in and accept how stiff it is.
I know that someone is going to dislike what I am about to write but I have even thought about taking the springs off from mine to get a lighter pedal. The safety aspect is the only reason that I have not done that YET, but the thought has crossed my mind several times.
 

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I know that someone is going to dislike what I am about to write but I have even thought about taking the springs off from mine to get a lighter pedal. The safety aspect is the only reason that I have not done that YET, but the thought has crossed my mind several times.
You are not the only one to have that thought. I figured if I replace both springs but in lighter weights they might cause enough tension to keep the tractor from moving on it's own.
 

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I only have a couple hours on mine since getting it last week. I noticed the stiff reverse pedal but honestly I already got used to it. It isn't that big of a deal to me but I can certainly understand how everyone else's situation is different.
 

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I only have a couple hours on mine since getting it last week. I noticed the stiff reverse pedal but honestly I already got used to it. It isn't that big of a deal to me but I can certainly understand how everyone else's situation is different.
Either I am getting a little used to the stiffness, or it may have eased up just a tad. I still have a couple things to try yet if it warms back up enough for me to play with it.
 
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I've had a B2301 for a little less than 4 years. The pedal design was a little different to get used to, but I've never had any issues. I seem to put my heel on the back, and toe under the front when I use reverse. May sound a little odd, but it works fine for me.
 

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Hello gentlemen, this is my first post, but I've often read the forum. I joined in hope's that this might help somebody who has been through this same problem. My b2601 had the same horrible reverse pedal issue and after much research I was going to replace the 2 vertical springs when I found a simple solution. Just remove the horizontal spring located near the switch below and behind the 2 vertical springs. It takes less than a minute. Costs nothing. And has dropped the force needed to reverse by about 50%. The pedal still quickly returns to middle stop position. And it now feels like every other kubota I've operated. No pedal mods or other things are necessary. This linkage has 3 springs but works much much better with 2. I hope this helps somebody who is searching the net like I was. Have a good evening.
 
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Hello gentlemen, this is my first post, but I've often read the forum. I joined in hope's that this might help somebody who has been through this same problem. My b2601 had the same horrible reverse pedal issue and after much research I was going to replace the 2 vertical springs when I found a simple solution. Just remove the horizontal spring located near the switch below and behind the 2 vertical springs. It takes less than a minute. Costs nothing. And has dropped the force needed to reverse by about 50%. The pedal still quickly returns to middle stop position. And it now feels like every other kubota I've operated. No pedal mods or other things are necessary. This linkage has 3 springs but works much much better with 2. I hope this helps somebody who is searching the net like I was. Have a good evening.
Where do I find this at? My tractor is still hard on the pedal!
 

Terry Lee

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Where do I find this at? My tractor is still hard on the pedal!
On the left side of the tractor, just in front of the transmission. Up pretty close to the floorboard. It's about a 3" spring. It is mounted above a switch that has 2 wires hooked to it. Its horizontal. Easy to get to with a piece of pull cord.
 

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On the left side of the tractor, just in front of the transmission. Up pretty close to the floorboard. It's about a 3" spring. It is mounted above a switch that has 2 wires hooked to it. Its horizontal. Easy to get to with a piece of pull cord.
I will have a look and see if I can find it. Removing it has no ill effect on operations?
 

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I will have a look and see if I can find it. Removing it has no ill effect on operations?
I am wondering if that spring is to the safety switch for the treadle pedal.
 

Terry Lee

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I will have a look and see if I can find it. Removing it has no ill effect on operations?
No I'll effect that I can see. But of course to each his own. I dont take any responsibility. No one who gives advice online can. But it has worked super good for me. I couldn't handle the force it took to reverse. I'm in pretty good shape but it was an uncomfortable movement and actually made my leg sore. It feels right now. And there are still 2 strong springs doing what they had 3 doing.
 

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No I'll effect that I can see. But of course to each his own. I dont take any responsibility. No one who gives advice online can. But it has worked super good for me. I couldn't handle the force it took to reverse. I'm in pretty good shape but it was an uncomfortable movement and actually made my leg sore. It feels right now. And there are still 2 strong springs doing what they had 3 doing.
I will be on it first thing in the morning to check. We are all responsible for our own actions and I never blame anyone for what I do. Free will!
 

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I will be on it first thing in the morning to check. We are all responsible for our own actions and I never blame anyone for what I do. Free will!
Appreciate the heads up on this.