Anybody with a BX series, that stowes their vertical lift rods?

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I just made a set of stabilizers for customer, that needed them to be able to rotate. I didn't realize it, but the BX series (and maybe others- I haven't explored that yet) has a set of tabs, one on either side between the top link and the fenders, that will hold the vertical lift rods. Evidently, this frees up the hydraulic upper arms to be used for other jobs? When the vertical rods are attached to those tabs, it rotates the lower lift arm; hence, the stabilizer needed to be able to rotate, so that the customer could have the arms held wide open when in the stowed position. This function was all new to me.
Does anyone use this feature, and can you clue me in to why?

http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/br549_red/?action=view&current=BX2360custom001.jpg

The photo shows a stabilizer installed, with the vertical lift rod in the stowed position.
 

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Got me on that one. I'll have to go out this morning and check my BX to see what's up. Offhand I don't remember those stow points.

Can't imagine what the hydraulic lift arms would be used for without the 3PH apparatus. Maybe skidding logs.

Asking your customer may give the best answer.

Oh, and good job on the stabilizers. Many of us with a BX really don't like the turnbuckles and the "loose" lift arms that sway inward. Makes it hard to hook up an implement with outside lift pins.
 

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I don't know if the BX2200 has those tabs, mine is in the shop now, but the BX2660 does and it was explained to me it was to keep the lift links raised and out of the way when just using the MMM. I use my tabs for anchor points when hauling and that's it.
 

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Yup what RRR said, it just more or less stores them out of the way mostly less but at least your not hooking them in to something when your running the MMM
 

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I don't know if the BX2200 has those tabs, mine is in the shop now, but the BX2660 does and it was explained to me it was to keep the lift links raised and out of the way when just using the MMM. I use my tabs for anchor points when hauling and that's it.
The BX2200 does not have the tabs.
I went to my local Kubota dealership on Friday to test drive the stabilizer on a 2360 (hence the photo), and it had a mmm on it. I didn't see any way that the 3 point hitch interfaced or interferred with the mower deck. I didn't crawl underneath, but I assumed that the deck raises hydraulically, from the center of the tractor.
Those tabs don't look any higher than the hydraulic lift arms at full height, so how does mounting to the tabs keep the arms any more out of the way?

An interesting comment- as I was trying the stabilizer on, I had to remove the factory stabilizer. While I was putting things back together, a fellow walked out, and asked what I was doing (in a converstional, nice way). I explained, and he then asked if it was a good tractor. I told him that it was, and asked why he was asking. He had just bought it, and wondered what I was doing to his tractor...
I did have full permission to tinker, and the owner of the dealership had come over to see how they fit. I felt a little awkward messing around with someones new purchase, though.
Beverage Tractor in Stuarts Draft, Va is a great dealership- they let me experiment and try out designs as much as I want, any time I want. I even have permission to wander the premises after hours. That's pretty rare.
 
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Actually, if you will look closely, the 3PH is what lifts the MMM and thus they can't operate independently. John Deere offers a hydraulic lift option on their 2305 which we have, but I don't know about the 1023/1026R.
 

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It didn't on that tractor- the arms were up, and the deck was sitting on the ground.
 

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It didn't on that tractor- the arms were up, and the deck was sitting on the ground.
I don't know what to tell you, I have a BX2200 and BX2660 and both have MMM decks that are lifted by a rod that goes to the 3PH.

The 3PH can be used independently only if the deck is put in the TOP position which has a tab to hold it in place while the 3PH goes up and down on its own. I know of no way to raise the MMM without the use of the 3PH.
 

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I don't know what to tell you, I have a BX2200 and BX2660 and both have MMM decks that are lifted by a rod that goes to the 3PH.

The 3PH can be used independently only if the deck is put in the TOP position which has a tab to hold it in place while the 3PH goes up and down on its own. I know of no way to raise the MMM without the use of the 3PH.
I believe you- I just need to look closer.
 

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I have the bx2230 and yes, the 3ph raises the mmm. There is a clip on the back that holds the top link up out of the way when you don't have an implement on it, but I don't see anything that holds the lift arms in any position.
 

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I just looked at my bx2230. It does have those tabs on the back frame. I can not see any reason one would want to or need to put the vertical rods there. I "think" those tabs are for the 3ph backhoe.
 

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I just looked at my bx2230. It does have those tabs on the back frame. I can not see any reason one would want to or need to put the vertical rods there. I "think" those tabs are for the 3ph backhoe.
Check your manual, mine says they are for the 3PH. Mine is a BX2660; should be the same, but who knows.
 

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I just looked at my bx2230. It does have those tabs on the back frame. I can not see any reason one would want to or need to put the vertical rods there. I "think" those tabs are for the 3ph backhoe.
I doubt it, unless yours are different. The tabs on the 2360 and 2660 are only 3/16" steel, and they are not heavy enough to support a backhoe.
 
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hodge I like your stabilizers, do you have more photos of the sets you have made?
I have lots of photos- I take and email photos when I make a set for a customer. PM me, and if I have a photo of a set for a particular tractor, I can send it to you.
 

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Update: Yep, the BX2200 has the hangers located just inside the rear fenders. I don't have a MMM so don't know how they function.

The dealer that you visit should know more about the hangers and how they relate to a MMM if that is the case.
 
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Are the stabilizers home made or are they sold somewhere. I like that.

Dave Pidgeon
I custom make them to fit each tractor model. They are homemade- there are almost no options for telescoping stabilizers on the market.