A new ride

lynnmor

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The $7500 government wealth transfer to buyers of EV's is going away in 3 days, hopefully it won't be extended.
 
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ZTMAN

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I have had a Lightning since 8/22. In PA it gets hot in the summer, cold in the winter.
Never an issue with charging due to heat or cold if the charger is wired correctly.

Congratulations on the new ride
 
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xrocketengineer

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The problem I had charging with my Outlander was not with the breaker tripping. It is a 20 Amp breaker and the load while charging at Level 1 is only 11.4 Amps. The unit (charger) plugged into the outlet must have a temperature sensor that trips when it gets hot from ambient temperature or otherwise. From what I have read, the actual charger is in the car and the wall unit is a just smart disconnect that prevents the cable from having any power until the cable is connected to the car. When the cable is connected, the car and the wall unit negotiate the voltage, charging rate etc. and charging starts.
I have solved my charging issues with more ventilation. A HF garage door screen to keep the mosquitos out, a pedestal fan blowing into the garage from the pool area and another small fan on the garage floor to keep the air circulating around. My electric bill has not increased noticeably and i add 4 of 5 gallons of gas every 3 months to prevent the fuel in the fuel tank from getting stale. The indicator on the dashboard shows over 85% of the time the operation is electric.
 

johnjk

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Congrats with the new ride. The be been looking but need something that can tow so an EV is not in my cards.
 

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Motors typically reaching speeds of 10,000 to 20,000 RPM

Unlike traditional engines that need to rev up to produce significant torque, electric motors deliver maximum torque from 0 RPM, providing instant acceleration.

In terms of 1 to 1 comparison:

Gas motor @ 515hp is 15 to 22 MPG
Electric engine @ 515hp is 98 MPGe
this is true however the enginerds who designed the motors also know that if you pour 100% available current to the motor from a dead stop, the motor will not last long. Thus, the enginerds program the motor controller such that current is applied however THEY want it to be. So essentially you do not get 100% torque when YOU want it, you get the amount of torque that the controller wants you to have based on the rest of the system's sensor data.

Thus saying "I get 100% torque from a dead stop" is not exactly true.

(yes I work on EV's for a living).

Not being difficult here, just pointing out a fact that many may or may not realize.

yes the motors often turn a lot of RPM, and yes there is still a transmission on some models. They aren't "direct drive" per say, rather the rotor turns a gearbox which then is responsible for transferring torque to the wheels.

spent a weekend with a Polaris EV full size. I liked it for the most part but range is an issue. Polaris advertises 80 miles range and that's enough for a short ride. When we are out in the sticks for a weekend, there is no place to charge. We can put 100 miles a day on it if we didn't have to stop & charge. Usually they have a 110v outlet but charging from 15-20% SOC to 98% takes ~18 hours. On L2 charging (220/240v) it's about 8 1/2. I could do that overnight but there is no 220/240v available anywhere at camp. It's also not silent-it IS quieter than the gas version but it's not silent. The belt drive and the gearbox make some noise, although it's not bad-certainly quieter than the gas burners. The gas version also runs about 80-90 mi on a tank of fuel, however it's a whole lot easier to carry a jerry can full of 87 octane than it is to carry a bucket full of electricity. Some have pushed for the camps to upgrade to 220/240v but the cost of doing that means that the ORV parks and camps will HAVE to charge a lot more for entry fees; and most likely will also charge you for the electricity used (metered charge). "CURRENTly" it's just a lot less expensive and a LOT less headache to run a gas burner which we still do. I like the EV, and it's useful for certain things but for what we do with it, weekend getaway to the ORV park(s), it's still not feasible. On cars, it's ok for some but I can tell you from my experience, that it won't work for us. I just got back from a 1200mi trip (round trip) and if I had to do it with a rechargeable electric car, we would have made that trip about twice as long. I only get so many days off work per year... For a commuter, it'd be fine. Having driven a Tesla Y for a litle bit, the range estimates that the mfg advertises aren't always accurate, the estimates are like epa fuel economy estimates in that they are ESTIMATES, under ideal conditions (flat ground, no wind, no hills, dry, 80 degrees, etc). Those conditions do not exist here so the 360 mile advertised range in the Y is an honest reality of about 220-250. Is it still cheaper than gas? Cheaper than GAS yes, but if you have to buy a new car to get the EV, no because you'll spend a little more on EV than gasoline power. Plus taxes are higher, insurance is higher (here anyway), registration is higher (in this area), etc....so you save fuel costs, but everything else added onto EV, it starts to even the playing field.

but yeah, they're nice. Just not that attractive to a lot of us financially.
 
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