Black Friday / Cyber Monday & First Plasma Cutter Options?

trackman23

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Ok folks, I am not sure that I "need" a plasma cutter but since it is black friday, /cyber Monday season, this mightbe the time to get one just in case

I plan to make some chimeneas / fire pits / fire rings from old propane tanks and other scrap I can get my hands on and at some point I may need it for repairs / modifications on my mx4800 and implements.

Given my uses, I doubt I need a cnc compatible plasma cutter but I have no idea what is junk and what is a good deal since I am just getting into metal work. Any advice on where to start or what to stay away from will be appreciated.

Thanks!
 

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My prediction: while you may not "need" a plasma cutter, once you have one for a while you'll find you wouldn't want to give it up.

I can't help much with recommendations. Mine is pretty old technology at this point.

Good luck,

Greg
 
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I love my Hypertherm. Great warranty support when it had an issue. I have miles of cuts on it in my cnc table and also have a hand torch that swaps out in seconds.
 

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I have a LOTOS and have had excellent use with it.
Blazes right through 1/2 steel!
 

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I have a LOTOS and have had excellent use with it.
Blazes right through 1/2 steel!
As do I.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052OX876?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3&th=1

For 200 bucks, you can’t go wrong.

It is a “game changer” in regard to metal working.

The Lotus is cheap, effective, and for basically 350 bucks (including tax, some consumables, welding gloves…blah blah blah) you’re cutting metal fast and easy. I love mine, and highly recommend it for the money.

Just yesterday, I used it to quickly and easily trim off some corners for a project I am working on.


HOWEVER since you “mentioned cnc” here is my “sad story”………….

I have a Langmuir Crossfire Pro in the basement. (love it BTW 🍻 )

I went with the Razorweld Plasma machine though, instead of the HyperTherm (due to budget constraints)


Here are some of my “rambling’s” about it though.



Getting a Langmuir setup, is a little more involved. You have to decide which way to set it up first.

1. With a “dedicated machine” torch, that would be uncomfortable to use by hand. (this is what I have, because I have the Lotus “hand machine” upstairs)

or

2. With a “hand” torch, so that you can disconnect it to cut things by hand, which is necessary sometimes. (I did not like the look of that as dumb as that sounds.)


The Langmuir setup is going to require you to also get a CAD program and a some other miscellaneous software to be able to program it.

Although that sounds “straight forward” my journey down that rabbit hole went something like this.

1. I Decided to use Fusion 360’s “free” version. Well I was in for quite a "learning event”. I had a terrible time trying to figure it out, and to top it off, it’s “cloud based” so you have to have internet to use it (for the most part).

So I tried Alibre’s “free version” , and by that time, I had some of the basics down, and since it is "not Cloud Based” it was a better choice for me. I then purchased the “Hobby Version” for 200 bucks.

2. Then I found that the “computer requirements” for basically ANY of the CAD programs required me to upgrade my machine.

3. Then I used the “Hobby version” for about 2 months and was frustrated with it because it was so “stripped down” that it was very cumbersome……SO I bought the “Pro Version”…..I like it.

So now lets add this up

Langmuir + Razorweld+ consumables= $5,000
New Computer = $1,500
Alibre Pro =$1,000
Piping + dryers/filters = $ 600


My advice for a “new guy” is, just get the Lotus and have fun with it.

When it sh1ts the bed, and you have seen how useful they are, pull out your check book, and get a HyperTherm (or a Langmuir with a HyperTherm;))

Good luck!(y)(y)
 
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When it sh1ts the bed, and you have seen how useful they are, pull out your check book, and get a HyperTherm (or a Langmuir with a HyperTherm;))

Good luck!(y)(y)
I've had a Hypertherm Powermax 380 for 20+ years and it's still going strong. I run it on 220V and it's rated for 3/8" steel plate and does a good job with that, but I could use something with more power these days.

My IR compressor has a 5hp single stage motor but it's only good for 5.7 cfm at 90 psi so not ideal for serious plasma work.
 
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As do I.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052OX876?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3&th=1

For 200 bucks, you can’t go wrong.

It is a “game changer” in regard to metal working.

The Lotus is cheap, effective, and for basically 350 bucks (including tax, some consumables, welding gloves…blah blah blah) you’re cutting metal fast and easy. I love mine, and highly recommend it for the money.

Just yesterday, I used it to quickly and easily trim off some corners for a project I am working on.


HOWEVER since you “mentioned cnc” here is my “sad story”………….

I have a Langmuir Crossfire Pro in the basement. (love it BTW 🍻 )

I went with the Razorweld Plasma machine though, instead of the HyperTherm (due to budget constraints)


Here are some of my “rambling’s” about it though.



Getting a Langmuir setup, is a little more involved. You have to decide which way to set it up first.

1. With a “dedicated machine” torch, that would be uncomfortable to use by hand. (this is what I have, because I have the Lotus “hand machine” upstairs)

or

2. With a “hand” torch, so that you can disconnect it to cut things by hand, which is necessary sometimes. (I did not like the look of that as dumb as that sounds.)


The Langmuir setup is going to require you to also get a CAD program and a some other miscellaneous software to be able to program it.

Although that sounds “straight forward” my journey down that rabbit hole went something like this.

1. I Decided to use Fusion 360’s “free” version. Well I was in for quite a "learning event”. I had a terrible time trying to figure it out, and to top it off, it’s “cloud based” so you have to have internet to use it (for the most part).

So I tried Alibre’s “free version” , and by that time, I had some of the basics down, and since it is "not Cloud Based” it was a better choice for me. I then purchased the “Hobby Version” for 200 bucks.

2. Then I found that the “computer requirements” for basically ANY of the CAD programs required me to upgrade my machine.

3. Then I used the “Hobby version” for about 2 months and was frustrated with it because it was so “stripped down” that it was very cumbersome……SO I bought the “Pro Version”…..I like it.

So now lets add this up

Langmuir + Razorweld+ consumables= $5,000
New Computer = $1,500
Alibre Pro =$1,000
Piping + dryers/filters = $ 600


My advice for a “new guy” is, just get the Lotus and have fun with it.

When it sh1ts the bed, and you have seen how useful they are, pull out your check book, and get a HyperTherm (or a Langmuir with a HyperTherm;))

Good luck!(y)(y)
I thought the computer and Alibre were for 3D printing 🤔.
 

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I have an older version of this:



A desiccant dryer makes the world of difference.
Don't throw out the beads when they turn pink, just pop them in the micro for a min or 2 and they are dry and reusable.


 

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I thought the computer and Alibre were for 3D printing 🤔.
Well “kinda-sorta”, in a round about way……Originally, I wanted/needed a CAD program and computer, for the plasma cutter, Hence my dalliance with (Con)Fusion 360…………...

At the same “time’ish" the 3D printer idea began to develop. Since I was going to be “married” to these CNC style machines for most likely the rest of my days, I began to get more serious about CAD…..Hence Alibre…..

So it’s one of those “Chicken or the egg” situations. ;)
 
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For my Harry Homeowner application, I love my Hypertherm 30AIR. It handles the materials I use, has its own on-board compressor and runs on 120V or 240V. It's obviously more capable on 240 but there have been times it was handy to use 120V.
 
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trackman23

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Thanks folks! i think I might go for something inexpensive $250-$350 to start as someone suggested and see how I end up using machine for a while then upgrade when it breaks. I know a lot of folks online seem to like the PrimeWeld welders and they have a few plasma cutters under $400 with US-based customer service so that may be the way to go.