Where do you buy your diesel? (Duplicate post)

[K.P.]

I am really struggling with this and it may be just plain anal stupidity on my part. I'm concerned the engine my late 90's B series Kubota could be damaged by today's biodiesel available at gas stations. And I've read the only difference between red dye off road diesel and gas station biodiesel is the taxes. Are fuel additives enough to replace the lubrication lost in today's diesel?

This tractor has 125 hours on it but sat virtually unused for six years. By accident I discovered the tank had an inch thick of goo on the bottom and the fuel line between tank and filter was filled with goo to. I almost done replacing everything from the tank to the fuel pump as well as the return lines. I'll be flushing the pump and injectors with 911 when I'm ready to fire it up but I have yet to buy the fuel. Is my local stations biodiesel my only convenient option and safe with the appropriate additive?

 

[RCW]

KP - - get your diesel from a station that sells a lot of diesel. Don't buy from a station in the heart of "suburbia," where they only sell a little to weekend warriors with green tractors!

Now, you won't be getting biodiesel at the pump, in my experience here in upstate New York.

I get mine at the headquarters of the local fuel company right here in town. Towns, village, school, and fuel company's trucks are all filled there.

 

[coachgeo]

If what your using has any biodiesel in it....... lubrication is not an issue. Bio-D is significantly better fuel when it comes to lube.

The concern is then how well the Bio-D is processed. Quality processors will get all the methanol out that was part of the processing. Large fuel corporations will have used Quality Bio-D.

So then there is storage since it naturally attracts moisture from the air. Use smaller containers for stored fuel with little to no air gap at the top. Empty it into tractor tank to keep it topped off as well.

There is a thread or two in here on Bio-D. Would be wise to review them

 

[hiho silver]

No desire to get a war started here....If you like your current suppliers by all means keep buying from them.

Just one opinion but I would stay with Amoco in your area. Most diesels are a commodity and positions are traded from company to company at various terminals. Quality can vary from load to load.

Last I knew Amoco, and some of the farmer owned cooperatives with their own refinery and pipeline (like Countrymark in Indiana), produced the most consistent high quality proprietary diesel fuel.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I would not recommend flushing and running it on 911, talk about the wrong lubrication!

Clean fresh diesel with maybe a cetane booster and you'll be better off.

If your buying from a station, what they are calling bio diesel is a very blended version.
There will be no difference from the regular Diesel and the Red off road diesel, it's just a dye the driver puts in the fuel when he delivers it to denote no road taxes were collected.

As far as the best place to by diesel, Truck stop hands down, they go through a ton of diesel a day so it's fresh and they run it through several filters on the way to your tank!

 

[RCW]

I would not recommend flushing and running it on 911, talk about the wrong lubrication!

KP - I missed that in your first post.

Do Not use 911, except for it's intended purpose, which is to free a gelled condition due to cold temps!! Bad news will follow...

There are several threads about diesel additives that NIW mentioned. I use Power Service (White bottle - 911 is the Red bottle). Other guys have other preferences.

For what it's worth, I would not use biodiesel in my stuff.......just my opinion. I never put E-gas in my Harley, unless I have to...same reasons.

Good luck!

 

[67Truckin]

I buy my diesel from the local Shell station as it's straight diesel. I also use Diesel Clean and Conditioner in each tank for pump and injector maintenance.

 

[armydoc78]

Both of my mechanics, the JD specialist and a Case IH specialist, recommend putting this in my storage tank. Said that this additive helps the older tractors burn the newer fuel better and protects the system. My other two tractors are a '66 3020 and a '65 806.


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[K.P.]

Thanks for all the responses. I found a B20 diesel locally and no matter what, I'm sure ANYTHING would have been better than the fuel that's been run through this engine since its break in period. I did not end up flushing with 911. Fresh fuel with a little additive through a new plumbing system and tank is how I went. Overall good education on the importance of maintaining a diesel fuel system. Thanks for the help.