Best Bush hog for L4310

amc019

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Hello all,

I have a L4310, and am in the market for a good heavy duty bush hog to mow around my property with. The terrain includes some areas of underlying rock and maybe a stump or limb, so I want it to be able to stand up to abuse and not wear out after 5 years or so. I have seen used Bush Hogs, King Kutters, Rhinos, and Land Prides in my area on craigslist, but dont know much about either except that Land Pride equipment has always seemed cheaply built to me. What are some good makes and models that will work well behind my tractor?

Also, I am having a hard time deciding between a 6 and 5 ft model, some say that the tractor will handle a 5ft better, but will it cover the entire path of the tractor width?

Any recommendations are recommended, and thank you for your time.
 

Bulldog

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My L3000 handles a 5' without any problem so I would say a 6' cutter is a good match for your tractor. I've had good luck with Bushhog brand cutters. You might even think about a pull type cutter. Unless you're cutting really heavy brush you may get by with a 8' pull type. The Bushhog model 3008 would be a good choice.
 

Stubbyie

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This is bit longer post than usual and is a compilation of a couple different posts glued together; there may be redundant words.

As for quality: any used bushhog (generic term for shredder or brush-hog, not a finish or flail mower) is a risk but careful shopping can cull the dogs. Look for loose U-joints and signs of frequent greasing; look for leaking gearbox. Look for slits gouges holes dings rust-holes in deck and sides and excessively worn skid-shoes along the bottom edges. Walk on the deck for soft or flimsey or flexing steel. Yeah, steel can be patched, but often the remaining is so poor you can't weld it worth a flip, and you still get a distorted patched deck.

If you're wanting a one-time deal, buy new, but be prepared to pay. Same caveats as mentioned. Try to stay away in any case from some of the 'metric' driveline and U-joint sizes and odd (pinched or distorted oddly shaped 6-sided shafts). In your area for new consider Modern: they have a line of hot-dipped galvanized decks that are about the heaviest I've seen. Some of the green line have decks that are dang near 5/16-in thick (they also have some like everybody else that are barn-tin sheet-metal thick). Some of the older blue and red models were hell for stout too.

Once you get custody, contact the manufacturer and wait on them to send you the Owner's Manual for that machine. You'll need to furnish them the Model Number off the tag. If not present they can guess pretty well based on your description. You may need to send them a photo via email.

Some blades can be hard to find in some areas. You said you had two different blade lengths----one's been cut off, ground off, or you have one or both incorrect blades. You need to start fresh with the OEM part number or you'll never get it right. Some blades will have a number stamped on them somewhere if not worn off.

There are literally hundreds of different bushhog blades--make certain you have the correct offset and direction of rotation and mounting hole size---in addition to length.

Locally, I pay about $50 for a set of two blades for a 6-ft Howse.

You might want to go back with new mounting bolts. Make sure the stumpjumper keyway slot is clean and make certain when reinstalling bolts the keyways line up.

Check local pawn shop for large sockets, extension, and break-over bar or buy a bushhog wrench to fit. Use a cheater pipe and penetrating oil. Lube the threads and keyway with thread sealant (pipe dope, not LocTite) when going back together.

After removing the nut the blade bolt will probably be tight. Put the nut back on just to top of bolt and use a piece of wood to punch the bolt loose.

Sharpen blades annually or as needed by removing and using a 4.5-in hand grinder.

Check gearbox and use 85-140-W gear oil or per Howse specs. Some of their gearboxes have a level indicating plug, some don't.

Tighten EVERY nut on the entire implement and go back with new NyLock nuts.

Blades can, do, and will bend and break. First time it happens you'll have a strong desire to be someplace else. Get out of PTO as fast as you can, go back to shop, and install new blade set. Retighten all bolts, again.

Keep those U-joints greased. Replace missing zerks (one each end). Look carefully, may be sheared off.

Depending where you live and the stocking availability in your area you'll probably do better to buy locally.

If this machine is new to you and you're not the original owner my suggestion would be to talk directly with the manufacturer and obtain the blade part number for that machine. And then buy locally if you can.

If you must, order your first set using that mfg part number.

Later, for future sets, you can shop for pricing using the KNOWN good sample blade.

Why you ask? I have seen used shredders with incorrect, torch cut, whittled, backwards, incorect rotation, upside-down, and everything in between blades. If you use what is now on the machine you truly don't know if it's correct for that use or not. I kid you not bushhog blades are magnets for errors. And believe it or not there are hundreds of possible blades to go wrong with.

As mentioned, some blades do have part numbers stamped into them. Most don't or are long gone due to abrasion and wear. And you still don't know if those are the correct blades for that machine.

If you've got a stump-jumper don't even bother trying to pull it. Locate the blade bolt and cut a hole in the deck to allow access. You'll need a 3/4-drive socket or a bushhog socket-wrench-on-a-stick blade wrench. My bolts are 1-7/8-inch. Yours will be different almost certainly. You MIGHT be able to fit a wrench over the lip of the tub-shape stump jumper. Others this forum report bending a wrench to gain access from the bottom.

If your first blade change go back with new special blade bolts, nuts, and lock washers. Clean the keyway on the blade carrier. Grease heavily when installing. Use thread lube on the bolt threads and tighten tight.

Change blades in pairs. Confirm installation per mfgs directions for orientation, direction of rotation, blade angle-up or -down. Spin by hand with blades straight to make sure not hitting deck anywhere. Support the unit if you're under it and DO NOT depend on tractor 3-point to hold it up. Might be easier to stand it up against a tree or stout fence post.

Grease gearbox and U-joints. Tighten 3-point lift pins and entire frame assembly.

Be prepared and keep in mind that blades can do and will bend and break---the first time it happens it'll scare you witless---turn off the PTO, clean the seat, and drive back to the house to replace both blades and retighten everything that shook loose.

Blades can be resharpened. See what new blades are like and duplicate on your blades when they need it. 4-1/2-inch hand angle grinder is just the ticket and can be done on the machine for a touch-up.

Please post back your experiences so we may all learn.
 

D2Cat

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Stubbie, you have covered all the details, but all I have is 4" grinder. Will that work, and is it OK if it's battery powered? :D
 

TripleR

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We use a Land Pride RCR2672 and have for years cut some really thick stuff, it's excellent quality, we also use and like Woods. The light duty might seem flimsy, but the medium and heavy duty are very good, solid units.
 

Stubbyie

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Dear D2Kat:

To address your questions, appropriately...

1. Nope, a 4-in grinder won't work, neither would a 5-in or a 9-in; it must be a 4.5-in or the metal will refuse to cooperate. If you don't have access to a 4.5-in grinder, I suggest a file. Preferably an 'ignition-point' type.

2a. Sure a battery type grinder will work. That's been covered in this Forum previously. However, the battery must be two 12-vdc marine deep-cycle types connected in series to provide 24-vdc. Very carefully connect a set of 4-ought jumper cables from the positive terminal on the top of battery #1 and the negative terminal on the bottom of battery #2, then clamp onto the itsy-bitsy terminals in the base of the grinder. I'd hang on tight when turning it 'on' as it may try to lift off.

2b. It would work even better to use the same battery hookup described connected to a 1-KW inverter and then plug your standard battery-operated grinder's charger into the inverter to charge the battery to then use in the grinder. See, there's always a solution to a bothersome problem.

Be sure to sharpen all blades razor-sharp over their entire length on both sides especially near the mounting hole so when cutting a strip of grass won't be left uncut.

I appreciate your response and always look forward to our continuing interaction. After all, sharing knowledge is the reason this website and its Forum exist.

Sincerely, Stubb.

NOTE TO READERS THAT MAY HAVE MADE IT TO THIS POINT. THIS "INFORMATION" IS INTENDED AS AN 'APPROPRIATE' RESPONSE AND IS NOT REPEAT NOT INTENDED TO BE USED IN ANY WAY. Except by..., well, by some.
 

D2Cat

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Stubb, I'm saving all this information in a file for my helper at the farm to be up to snuff on all matters of maintenance. Thanks again!!
 

Tallahassee Kubota Man

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Dear D2Kat:

To address your questions, appropriately...

1. Nope, a 4-in grinder won't work, neither would a 5-in or a 9-in; it must be a 4.5-in or the metal will refuse to cooperate. If you don't have access to a 4.5-in grinder, I suggest a file. Preferably an 'ignition-point' type.

2a. Sure a battery type grinder will work. That's been covered in this Forum previously. However, the battery must be two 12-vdc marine deep-cycle types connected in series to provide 24-vdc. Very carefully connect a set of 4-ought jumper cables from the positive terminal on the top of battery #1 and the negative terminal on the bottom of battery #2, then clamp onto the itsy-bitsy terminals in the base of the grinder. I'd hang on tight when turning it 'on' as it may try to lift off.

2b. It would work even better to use the same battery hookup described connected to a 1-KW inverter and then plug your standard battery-operated grinder's charger into the inverter to charge the battery to then use in the grinder. See, there's always a solution to a bothersome problem.

Be sure to sharpen all blades razor-sharp over their entire length on both sides especially near the mounting hole so when cutting a strip of grass won't be left uncut.

I appreciate your response and always look forward to our continuing interaction. After all, sharing knowledge is the reason this website and its Forum exist.

Sincerely, Stubb.

NOTE TO READERS THAT MAY HAVE MADE IT TO THIS POINT. THIS "INFORMATION" IS INTENDED AS AN 'APPROPRIATE' RESPONSE AND IS NOT REPEAT NOT INTENDED TO BE USED IN ANY WAY. Except by..., well, by some.
I like your humor Stubb :D
 

D2Cat

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Stubb, I made a copy of your procedures and gave to my head herdsman. He let me know there was at least one area he had concern with.

You stated, "Blades can be resharpened. See what new blades are like and duplicate on your blades when they need it. 4-1/2-inch hand angle grinder is just the ticket and can be done on the machine for a touch-up."

Then you mentioned, "Be sure to sharpen all blades razor-sharp over their entire length on both sides especially near the mounting hole so when cutting a strip of grass won't be left uncut."

No need for a quick response because he's got way too much to do before any mowing can be done. We're spraying thistles and fixing water gaps right now!