Ive been real lucky as the hogs up here have only come up from the creek bed they use as a hiway once and all they did was root up some black walnuts. A friend over near Hallsville has a thermal scope on her AR & I loaded her some hot 70 grain & she has been thumping the hogs right & left at night She has a couple who she calls & they come load it & take it. The rule around my part of East Tx is if it's a wild hog, shoot it