Third Fuction Valve

[wng-2]

Hi, I want to use a snow plow on my 2009 Kubota L4400 Hydrostatic. I have athe Skid Steer attachment steup. In the unlikely event I should decide to install this myself, what exactly do I need to buy to add the third function valve? How much of a job is it?
Thanks very much.

 

[Kubie L3400D]

Hi, I want to use a snow plow on my 2009 Kubota L4400 Hydrostatic. I have athe Skid Steer attachment steup. In the unlikely event I should decide to install this myself, what exactly do I need to buy to add the third function valve? How much of a job is it?
Thanks very much.

Not hard to install at all.

Hydraulic 3rd function L3400 Kit...

... from Tractor Innovations. Purchased for $550 shipped. Did not install it. Decided to go another more costly route. I'm sure, according to the website, that this kit will work on other models. It comes complete with everything that was in the original box. It can be yours for $450...

www.orangetractortalks.com

 

[TheOldHokie]

Hi, I want to use a snow plow on my 2009 Kubota L4400 Hydrostatic. I have athe Skid Steer attachment steup. In the unlikely event I should decide to install this myself, what exactly do I need to buy to add the third function valve? How much of a job is it?
Thanks very much.

If all you want is a lever valve its EZ-PZ and not expensive. This is a real directional control valve not a diverter and it operates independent of the loader valve:

EZ-PZ Kubota Tractor Remotes

An affordable easy to install auxiliary valve kit customized to fit L01 and L02 series tractors. No hydraulic expertise required and kit can be installed in about 30 minutes.

windyridgefarm.us

Dan

 

[wng-2]

Not hard to install at all.

Hydraulic 3rd function L3400 Kit...

... from Tractor Innovations. Purchased for $550 shipped. Did not install it. Decided to go another more costly route. I'm sure, according to the website, that this kit will work on other models. It comes complete with everything that was in the original box. It can be yours for $450...

www.orangetractortalks.com

I ended up doing a lot of hunting, and ended up purchasing the kit from tractor innovations. I didn't realize until this morning this was the kit you mentioned. Upon reading the directions, there is a caveat/warning, regarding using the dump circuit for certain things like a snow plow. Apparently there is a "regenerative"type valve on many tractors, so that when you dump, (lever to the right) it applies juice to both cylinders. In the case of a snow plow, it angles left, but won't go back right. The apparent solution is to use a single, double acting cylinder. I need to know now, exactly what to buy and where. The vendor what responsive on the night I ordered the valve, but did not respond to my question last night.Thanks

 

[TheOldHokie]

I ended up doing a lot of hunting, and ended up purchasing the kit from tractor innovations. I didn't realize until this morning this was the kit you mentioned. Upon reading the directions, there is a caveat/warning, regarding using the dump circuit for certain things like a snow plow. Apparently there is a "regenerative"type valve on many tractors, so that when you dump, (lever to the right) it applies juice to both cylinders. In the case of a snow plow, it angles left, but won't go back right. The apparent solution is to use a single, double acting cylinder. I need to know now, exactly what to buy and where. The vendor what responsive on the night I ordered the valve, but did not respond to my question last night.Thanks

Do you want to keep the Tractor Innovations setup or do you want to scrap it and start fresh?

If you are going to keep what you bought you are stuck with its limitations and you will have to modify your plow to work with their kit - e.g. replace the cylinders.

If you want to start over I would reccomend you replace the selector setup with a cheap single spool double acting directional control valve mounted next to the loader valve. It will work just fine with single acting or double acting snow plow cylinders as well as hydraulic motors. It is a real third function directional control valve not a manual diverter. It gives you 3 independent valves not one independent and one mutually exclusive shared valve. And you can do it for less than the cost of the Tractor Innovations kit..

Dan

 

[wng-2]

Do you want to keep the Tractor Innovations setup or do you want to scrap it and start fresh?

If you are going to keep what you bought you are stuck with its limitations and you will have to modify your plow to work with their kit - e.g. replace the cylinders.

If you want to start over I would reccomend you replace the selector setup with a cheap single spool double acting directional control valve mounted next to the loader valve. It will work just fine with single acting or double acting snow plow cylinders as well as hydraulic motors. It is a real third function directional control valve not a manual diverter. It gives you 3 independent valves not one independent and one mutually exclusive shared valve. And you can do it for less than the cost of the Tractor Innovations kit..

Dan

At this point I would like to keep what I have and buy a cylinder for the snow plow.

 

[wng-2]

Do you want to keep the Tractor Innovations setup or do you want to scrap it and start fresh?

If you are going to keep what you bought you are stuck with its limitations and you will have to modify your plow to work with their kit - e.g. replace the cylinders.

If you want to start over I would reccomend you replace the selector setup with a cheap single spool double acting directional control valve mounted next to the loader valve. It will work just fine with single acting or double acting snow plow cylinders as well as hydraulic motors. It is a real third function directional control valve not a manual diverter. It gives you 3 independent valves not one independent and one mutually exclusive shared valve. And you can do it for less than the cost of the Tractor Innovations kit..

Dan

My problem is that I am not patient. Circumstances have left me without a snow plow on my truck in mid November. I went to the link you provided for the EZ-PZ. Unfortunately there was no provision to order online , so I googled the description, and wound up on the tractor innovations site. I should have brought the tractor to the Kubota dealer and let them do it for $1800.

 

[Kubie L3400D]

I ended up doing a lot of hunting, and ended up purchasing the kit from tractor innovations. I didn't realize until this morning this was the kit you mentioned. Upon reading the directions, there is a caveat/warning, regarding using the dump circuit for certain things like a snow plow. Apparently there is a "regenerative"type valve on many tractors, so that when you dump, (lever to the right) it applies juice to both cylinders. In the case of a snow plow, it angles left, but won't go back right. The apparent solution is to use a single, double acting cylinder. I need to know now, exactly what to buy and where. The vendor what responsive on the night I ordered the valve, but did not respond to my question last night.Thanks

I was in a situation similar to yours, not snow plow related, and decided to go another route, and our tractor is several hours away, thus this TI valve collecting dust.

Good luck as you proceed.

 

[TheOldHokie]

My problem is that I am not patient. Circumstances have left me without a snow plow on my truck in mid November. I went to the link you provided for the EZ-PZ. Unfortunately there was no provision to order online , so I googled the description, and wound up on the tractor innovations site. I should have brought the tractor to the Kubota dealer and let them do it for $1800.

There is no provision on my Website to order online because everything I do is made to order. There is a How To Order link there that would have put you in touch with me and got you what you wanted although maybe not as fast as Tractor Innovations. On the other hand it would have worked out of the box.

Is your plow going to work with one double acting cylinder in place of the two single acting cylinders?

Dan

 

[Kubie L3400D]

There is no provision on my Website to order online because everything I do is made to order. There is a How To Order link there that would have put you in touch with me and got you what you wanted although maybe not as fast as Tractor Innovations. On the other hand it would have worked out of the box.

Is your plow going to work with one double acting cylinder in place of the two single acting cylinders?

Dan

For future reference, what is your website, if that is allowed here?

 

[TheOldHokie]

For future reference, what is your website, if that is allowed here?

Thanks for the interest. As far as I know its allowed and I just added it to my profile:

Windy Ridge Farm

Use the Products link in the navbar to get to the tractor stuff. Please keep in mind I am a retired Software Engineer that does this stuff as a hobby. I don't need the money so I work cheap but not necessarily fast. It's educational, keeps me entertained, and out of bars and brothels

If you want to inquire about a product or service or just ask a private question PM me here, email me, or call my cell. Email address and cell number are on the Contact Us page of the website.

Dan

 

[Kubie L3400D]

Thanks for the interest. As far as I know its allowed and I just added it to my profile:

Windy Ridge Farm

Use the Products link in the navbar to get to the tractor stuff. Please keep in mind I am a retired Software Engineer that does this stuff as a hobby. I don't need the money so I work cheap but not necessarily fast. It's educational, keeps me entertained, and out of bars and brothels

If you want to inquire about a product or service or just ask a private question PM me here, email me, or call my cell. Email address and cell number are on the Contact Us page of the website.

Dan

 

[wng-2]

There is no provision on my Website to order online because everything I do is made to order. There is a How To Order link there that would have put you in touch with me and got you what you wanted although maybe not as fast as Tractor Innovations. On the other hand it would have worked out of the box.

Is your plow going to work with one double acting cylinder in place of the two single acting cylinders?

Dan

Thanks. I have saved the website, and will certainly contact you for future needs. A friend selected this
Cylinder for me. I have to pick up a couple of fittings, and hopefully it will work.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Thanks. I have saved the website, and will certainly contact you for future needs. A friend selected this
Cylinder for me. I have to pick up a couple of fittings, and hopefully it will work.

Yikes!!! That is enough cylinder to power a log splitter!

Dan

 

[wng-2]

Yikes!!! That is enough cylinder to power a log splitter!

Dan

I thought so too when I picked it up.....

 

[wng-2]

Do you want to keep the Tractor Innovations setup or do you want to scrap it and start fresh?

If you are going to keep what you bought you are stuck with its limitations and you will have to modify your plow to work with their kit - e.g. replace the cylinders.

If you want to start over I would reccomend you replace the selector setup with a cheap single spool double acting directional control valve mounted next to the loader valve. It will work just fine with single acting or double acting snow plow cylinders as well as hydraulic motors. It is a real third function directional control valve not a manual diverter. It gives you 3 independent valves not one independent and one mutually exclusive shared valve. And you can do it for less than the cost of the Tractor Innovations kit..

Dan

I do want to buy this. The other setup is going to give me fits. My trctor is a a 2009 L 4400 Hydrostatic.