(SOLD) Front PTO B5100 E

arml

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Working front PTO working condition. I have no need for it, selling for $250.
Located in Pa. you arrange for pickup or shipping.
 
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Arml
Is it a complet unit with the 18mm x 22 spline? Let's talk
Thanks Ed
 

arml

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Crank hub and spline, covers etc. What are you going to run on it on it? As for shipping you would have to arrange for that, Fastenal can do it.
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I can take pictures for you in a day or two if you want. If you want to run a belly deck you would need the undermount frame which I don't have but, I know where one is. Let me know.Al

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Brad Parliman

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Did you sell the front pto?
Crank hub and spline, covers etc. What are you going to run on it on it? As for shipping you would have to arrange for that, Fastenal can do it.
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I can take pictures for you in a day or two if you want. If you want to run a belly deck you would need the undermount frame which I don't have but, I know where one is. Let me know.Al

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Arml,
It looks like my post requesting North Dakota Wolfman's response was deleted? At least I can't find it.

From the book i have, I've read the 5100, 6100 and 7100 front PTO's are; 18mm x 22 spline shafts. I measured the front pto output on mine and it is the 18mm. Measuring from the front tip of the tractor pto output shaft to the front of the tractor (ie let's call it the "mounting plate/bumper") is 9.5 inches. Does that sound like your assembly? Seeattached pic.
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Arml,
It looks like my post requesting North Dakota Wolfman's response was deleted? At least I can't find it.
North Dakota Wolfman is on vacation...
Did you need to ask North IDAHO Wolfman something? 🤣
 

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North Dakota Wolfman is on vacation...
Did you need to ask North IDAHO Wolfman something? 🤣
Lol on my part. A member (Arml) has a front pto shaft including the full housing assembly (pulleys, outer shell, cover, etc.) on a B5100.
I've have an operator/parts manual and read the 5100, 6100 and 7100 front PTO is compatible. providing they share the 18mm x 22 spline shaft. I measured the front pto output shaft dimensions on my B7100 and it is the 18mm x 22 spline and understand his B5100 is the same. Are there any gotchas I might be missing before purchasing?
 
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Lol on my part. A member (Arml) has a front pto shaft including the full housing assembly (pulleys, outer shell, cover, etc.) on a B5100.
I've have an operator/parts manual and read the 5100, 6100 and 7100 front PTO is compatible. providing they share the 18mm x 22 spline shaft. I measured the front pto output shaft dimensions on my B7100 and it is the 18mm x 22 spline and understand his B5100 is the same. Are there any gotchas I might be missing before purchasing?
With the measurements you gave, what he has, should mount right up.

I think to mount it up you'll need to pull the cast weight on yours, but with the notch I might be wrong.
Curious as to what's holding that weight it in place, as I don't see any bolts.
 

Brad Parliman

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North Dakota Wolfman is on vacation...
Did you need to ask North IDAHO Wolfman something? 🤣
With the measurements you gave, what he has, should mount right up.

I think to mount it up you'll need to pull the cast weight on yours, but with the notch I might be wrong.
Curious as to what's holding that weight it in place, as I don't see any bolts.
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That weight is indented to allow for the shaft to pass the weight without removal. The weight actually floats in there. It also appears the front bolt holes align and I could bolt it in but I have 2 front horseshoe weights that drape over the front mounting plate that block the ability to bolt it in. See pics and thanks fro the confirmation on the front pto assembly!
 

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Brad, sounds right, I do have all the attaching bolts also. Al
Arml,
I've confirmed with North Idaho Wolfman what I thought, and it appears your unit will work with my B7100.
I live in CT and depending where you are could drive out to pay and pick up the unit. What area in PA are you (ie city)?
 

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Lol on my part. A member (Arml) has a front pto shaft including the full housing assembly (pulleys, outer shell, cover, etc.) on a B5100.
I've have an operator/parts manual and read the 5100, 6100 and 7100 front PTO is compatible. providing they share the 18mm x 22 spline shaft. I measured the front pto output shaft dimensions on my B7100 and it is the 18mm x 22 spline and understand his B5100 is the same. Are there any gotchas I might be missing before purchasing?
I assume the stub sticking out below is the 18 x 22 pto shaft you are talking about. How is it attached to the engine and what is supporting it on the outboard end?

Dan


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arml

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Brad, I'm a little confused about the stub shaft coming from the engine, this flange I have bolts to the engine pulley then the shaft along with the electric PTO slides into the hub. I'll get some pictures together for you in couple days to verify if it will fit. Perhaps the D model is not the the same as the 2wd E....?
 
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Brad, I'm a little confused about the stub shaft coming from the engine, this flange I have bolts to the engine pulley then the shaft along with the electric PTO slides into the hub. I'll get some pictures together for you in couple days to verify if it will fit. Perhaps the D model is not the the same as the 2wd E....?
Something like this?

Dan

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Arml. I have a 7100D. I am sure he will tell you but the stub you are seeing is not the front PTO shaft. If you look at the pic you sent you will see a little grove cut in the metal above the wires and just below the radiator. The PTO comes out there and is lined up with that groove on top of the large weight. I would like to see a picture of yours so I can see how the pto fits in. Thanks Gary
 

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Arml. I have a 7100D. I am sure he will tell you but the stub you are seeing is not the front PTO shaft. If you look at the pic you sent you will see a little grove cut in the metal above the wires and just below the radiator. The PTO comes out there and is lined up with that groove on top of the large weight. I would like to see a picture of yours so I can see how the pto fits in. Thanks Gary
Arml,
The D in B7100D is for Diesel. I think the e on your B5100e indicates 2WD.
Anyway, the weight is removable and removed in the pics attached.
I have three bolt holes that mount the unit to each side of the tractor.
I believe the pto output shaft would bolt to the front plate (which mine has 8 holes)
See the following pics

Pic 1 - Showing a side pic with 3 bolt holes for the unit to mount to

Pic 2 - Showing PTO spline end (18MM x 22 tooth) (where the front pto shaft would slide onto - then bolt onto the front plate in pic 3)

Pic 3 - Showing the front mounting plate/bumper with 8 holes (in the middle of pic 3 you can make out a portion of the pto output spline from pic 2)

Hopefully that makes sense?
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Arml,
The D in B7100D is for Diesel. I think the e on your B5100e indicates 2WD.
Anyway, the weight is removable and removed in the pics attached.
I have three bolt holes that mount the unit to each side of the tractor.
I believe the pto output shaft would bolt to the front plate (which mine has 8 holes)
See the following pics

Pic 1 - Showing a side pic with 3 bolt holes for the unit to mount to

Pic 2 - Showing PTO spline end (18MM x 22 tooth) (where the front pto shaft would slide onto - then bolt onto the front plate in pic 3)

Pic 3 - Showing the front mounting plate/bumper with 8 holes (in the middle of pic 3 you can make out a portion of the pto output spline from pic 2)

Hopefully that makes sense?
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The D is for dual traction - e.g. 4WD.

I have the same splined PTO hub on my B7200 - the parts book calls it a flange. Messicks shows the shaft (66494-88540) available for $150+. Probably going to be NLA if you call.

What are you trying to accomplish? I have toyed with the idea of making a front takeoff for a hydraulic pump using more common parts. Thats easy. The more difficult/ expensive part is the running gear - e.g. clutch - for the outboard end if you want to run something that requires it.

Dan
 
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I assume the stub sticking out below is the 18 x 22 pto shaft you are talking about. How is it attached to the engine and what is supporting it on the outboard end?

Dan


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The part you are point to is the front axle pivot, not the crank.