OK to let bucket slam down to clear stuck snow in bucket?

[Orange man hero]

I shake it. Any more than 3 times is playing with it though!
I also leave the bucket outside the garage. I back in, and unlatch it outside the door, it blocks the door so would be the thieves have another obstacle to getting stuff out. Sloshing some diesel fuel in the bucket will help with snow sticking too.

I was in the Navy seasick all the time and smelling diesel all the time. Hate that smell!

 

[Orange man hero]

Usually shaking the bucket with the curl/dump control gets the job done but I would have no qualms about a "gentle" rap on the ground. Free fall from full height - no.

Dan

Yes, curl dump control is what I mean as that is how I do it. Must be OK to do?

 

[Orange man hero]

I will run the bucket against the stops to dislodge stuck material but if a couple of those raps don't work, I just leave the stuff in .

Yes, this is what I mean raping it against the stops...must be OK do do then!

 

[Orange man hero]

I would not recommend slamming it, and would never do that, even with someone elses equipment.
For the amount that actually sticks to the bucket while using it, why not leave it there, until the job is complete. Then use a scraper and snowbrush, to remove whatever is stuck, before moving the tractor to put it back in the garage, waiting for its next use.

I carry a shovel in the ballast box on the back and find myself stopping a lot to clear at least a 1/4 or almost 1/2 full of snow bucket.

 

[leveraddict]

I took it the OP meant a quick dump and the bucket hits the stops dislodging snow. This is what I do usually only before pulling back in the garage!

 

[mikester]

Having trouble understanding why this would be a NO.

If the tractor is stopped, and the bucket is just falling like in float, what would be the negative?

Just wondering what I am missing...

AG and garden tractors don't have robust pins and bushings. Impact loads are great for making your bushings oval. On construction equipment you can press out and replace the internal bushings. On your tractor its a major repair.

Not greasing your pins and bushings is also a form of abuse with similar results to slamming your buckets on the ground.

 

[TheOldHokie]

No, never let it hit the ground.

Having trouble understanding why this would be a NO.

If the tractor is stopped, and the bucket is just falling like in float, what would be the negative?

Just wondering what I am missing...

Much depends on how long it is allowed to "free fall". I am sure you remember:

v = at

followed by :

F = 1/2mv^^2



Dan

 

[TheOldHokie]

Yes, this is what I mean raping it against the stops...must be OK do do then!

Standard operating practice.

Dan

 

[fried1765]

yup, what gets me are the 'masons' who let the motor harden up overnight, then literally beat the krap outta the drum the next morning, at 7:12.......

Mortar ???

 

[top gnome]

I am sure this one will get me in trouble but a major reason I purchased a new tractor was because my farmall had difficult and expensive to fix oil leaks as did some of the used tractors I looked at. not sure about adding oil or diesel to the bucket

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[GreensvilleJay]

re: If the tractor is stopped, and the bucket is just falling like in float, what would be the negative?

he used the word 'slam', that to me means a very FORCEFUL action. If you watch/play hockey 'slamming someone into the walls is NOT a 'gentle' action !

As for 'sprays', all will be a one use deal. Move enough snow/ice, the 'spray' will be rubbed off. hmm, a spray paint, like the ceramic VHT ones, might work real slick.... there are spray on epoxy paints (RC hobby shops...) that might work. PREP of the bucket is 99.44% of the job...

 

[TheOldHokie]

Having trouble understanding why this would be a NO.

If the tractor is stopped, and the bucket is just falling like in float, what would be the negative?

Just wondering what I am missing...

As you may have noticed I am a bit of an empiricist and this piqued my interest. So when I took the trash down to the road this morning I did a little experimenting with an LA525 and and empty bucket.

1. Float is self limiting - the cylinders act like a hydraulic damper and you get a controlled fall with soft landing.
2. Full power down is a bit faster and you get a thump when you hit the ground (pavement in this case) but nothing exciting.

Findings: its next to impossible to "slam" the bucket on that loader against the ground.

Dan

 

[GreensvilleJay]

hay Dan ...for YOUR tractor/loader combination,sounds like it's 'soft'
city JD TLB he COULD SLAM it down, hard.terrible abuse of the machine, course he doesn't OWN it....

re: Mortar ??? Yes..stuff used for brick laying. Idiots let the excess harden overnight, beat the drum to break it out of it, makes a helluva noise at 7AM, well anytime really....

 

[Henro]

As you may have noticed I am a bit of an empiricist and this piqued my interest. So when I took the trash down to the road this morning I did a little experimenting with an LA525 and and empty bucket.

1. Float is self limiting - the cylinders act like a hydraulic damper and you get a controlled fall with soft landing.
2. Full power down is a bit faster and you get a thump when you hit the ground (pavement in this case) but nothing exciting.

Findings: its next to impossible to "slam" the bucket on that loader against the ground.

Dan

That is my experience too. And the reason I was wondering what I was possibly missing...

 

[SRRGC1]

If you continue to do things with your equipment that it was not intended for, you certainly risk damage. I buy the cheapest food spray I can find. I then spray my plow and loader with ample amounts just prior to using. This does seem to help some. I try to get the butter favor. It is what it is. The only issue I seem to have been keeping the dog from licking the spray off. LOL.

 

[DustyRusty]

As you may have noticed I am a bit of an empiricist and this piqued my interest. So when I took the trash down to the road this morning I did a little experimenting with an LA525 and and empty bucket.

1. Float is self limiting - the cylinders act like a hydraulic damper and you get a controlled fall with soft landing.
2. Full power down is a bit faster and you get a thump when you hit the ground (pavement in this case) but nothing exciting.

Findings: its next to impossible to "slam" the bucket on that loader against the ground.

Dan

OK.. you got my attention since I haven't heard this word used in many years. For those that don't know what I am talking about, below is the explanation.


PHILOSOPHY
noun

1. a person who supports the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.
   "most scientists are empiricists by nature"
   

adjective

1. relating to or characteristic of the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.
   "his radically empiricist view of science as a direct engagement with the world"

 

[TheOldHokie]

OK.. you got my attention since I haven't heard this word used in many years. For those that don't know what I am talking about, below is the explanation.


PHILOSOPHY
noun

1. a person who supports the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.
   "most scientists are empiricists by nature"

adjective

1. relating to or characteristic of the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses.
   "his radically empiricist view of science as a direct engagement with the world"

Not so much in the literal philisophical sense and more in the sense that I made my living in the test and measurement world. When a question is posed my immediate reaction is how do we quantify and gather empirical data (physics, chemistry, magnitude, duration, etc) that allows us to formulate a scientific answer or explanation for the question.

But I did take way more than the required minimum number of Philosophy credits

Dan

 

[DWilly]

If you continue to do things with your equipment that it was not intended for, you certainly risk damage.

But sometimes it's worth it?

 

[Henro]

But I did take way more than the required minimum number of Philosophy credits

Dan

Probably benefited more from taking those classes than what basket weaving might have given you...LOL

 

[Geezer3d]

As you may have noticed I am a bit of an empiricist and this piqued my interest. So when I took the trash down to the road this morning I did a little experimenting with an LA525 and and empty bucket.

1. Float is self limiting - the cylinders act like a hydraulic damper and you get a controlled fall with soft landing.
2. Full power down is a bit faster and you get a thump when you hit the ground (pavement in this case) but nothing exciting.

Findings: its next to impossible to "slam" the bucket on that loader against the ground.

Dan

The speed and 'thump' of allowing the bucket to drop using float depends a lot on the weight in the bucket. My snow plow weighs a lot more than my bucket when empty and it drops a lot faster and harder.