Got a three week old BX2680 with no power going to the small trigger wire on the starter when key is in the start position. Does any one know if it has a starter relay or if the trigger wire feeds off the ignition key switch. Don't have a FSM yet.
New BX2680 no start
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I can't answer your question. But when I bought my 2680 I asked the parts guy to sell me a WSM. He said they weren't available in hard copy yet but he did send me the digital version free of charge. Call your dealer or PM me and I will get you a copy in the air. Ed B
All your levers etc: in netural position's you won't get power coming from that wire for that reason.
PTO disengaged and tried the wiggle no matter, park brake on or off no matter, low high range in N, have lights on dash battery is at 12.9 volts large red wire at starter is hot ground at starter is good. Still no power on the trigger wire at starter. Checked safety switch on seat it makes when seated. This tractor will start with no one in the seat in low range and no park brake on. Seems strange to me. But today no start. Have checked all fuses including the 50 amp main fuse.
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The tractor should not start if no one is in the seat. There may be some models that will start with the seat in the raised position but I think that yours is not one of those. In any case, from what you said about it previously starting with no one in the seat that you may have a faulty seat safety switch.
Calling dealer in the am but I don't have a trailer to haul it on yet and they want 300 bucks for hauling. I normally fix everything myself just to gain the smarts. The wiring diagram will do the trick.
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This sounds like it should be a warranty repair. If your machine is still under warranty you may want to check if the dealer includes pickup and delivery. My dealer includes pickup and delivery of the machine if warranty repair. My dealer also included a house call for a warranty repair for me.
I start my 1870 all the time standing next to it. It will not start if the pto lever is ever so slightly out of the disengage position
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Unless l missed it no one mentioned the hydrostatic pedal. The hydrostatic pedal position must be in the neutral position for starting and may require some adjustments.
Stopped by the dealer in Augusta GA today, they are great. Took me back in the shop and showed me where the safety switches are and showed me their shop manual that I ordered for 108.00 while there. I got home then checked the safety switch on the pto both set of switches inside where closing and working then I bypassed the seat switch and then started looking for the HST safety switch, oh boy what a pita after removing the rear tire it looks like a bear to get to. I already decided I was going to jump it and bypass every dumb switch on this tractor so I'm just putting the tire back on and run one hot wire from the key switch start position to the starter solenoid and I'm done with the dummy switches, all bypassed. The old 1974 Ford 2000 does not even know what a safety switch is. It has also never failed to start after forty years of service. These safety switches seem quite stupid to me, this BX2680 will start standing on the ground in gear low or high range and no park brake on, Really ! what kind of dummy I mean safety is that ? go figure. Thank you guys for your input this forum is a great source of info.
Went out yesterday to run a wire from key switch to starter and turned the key to start position to find which wire was hot on start and wala she fired right up. Bumfugled was the word I had no idea what made it start other than a safety switch must have made while sitting in the shop. I promptly took her out for a spin around the yard stopping and starting the engine bout six times fired right up every time. Parked her back in the shed and called it good until I came out late that evening to do a little yard work BOOM would not start again. GRRRRR took her right back in the shop and ran a wire from starter trigger wire or small wire on starter to key switch wire that is hot only on start. Put that wire inside black wire loom and looks like a factory install. Problem solved and wont happen again.
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I would like to make a suggestion to you. Instead of permanently bypassing all the safety circuits, how about installing your jumper wire on a switch. That way you can bypass all the safety switches to get the tractor started and then turn the safety circuits back on after the tractor starts. Kind of like the old clutch safety bypass switch that some car manufacturers used when those things first came out in the 70's.
You know that's an idea I did not think of and a dang good one, thanks for the reply. The wife handed me a little shiney new spring she picked up off the ground a little while ago I bet that came out of the HST switch. That thing is so hard to get to I'm not even thinking about it. Cant figure why Kubota would mount it up in the middle of the frame when it would be so easy to mount around the foot pedals with a small cover over it. When I saw the foot pedal adjustment screws I first thought that was the switch. Maybe they did not want a dummy like me trying to jump the switch, they won I'm not touching it.
They bury them so people won't bypass them and run over themselves. I had the pleasure of working with an older Kubota tech when I was younger. We were on a service call to a L4200 (brand new) that wouldn't start. Owner of tractor was not home. The older tech I was with got to the tractor, reached up and hit the key, and tractor immediately started up and ran over him, shattering his right leg and hip. I had to run over to the owner's house, break into a window and call 9-1-1 as at that time nobody had cellphones unless you were super rich and even then they wouldn't get a decent signal most of the time. 20 minutes before a ambulance arrived, whole time his hip/leg swelled up about 3x it's normal size, and watched him helplessly go in and out of consciousness several times due to the extreme pain. BTW the tractor kept on going until it ran up into a big tree where it still never died, just kept pawing at the ground. I finally ran over to it-about 200 yards away-and pulled the emergency kill.
Also done so that debris is less likely to hit & damage it. Believe it or not there is a method to their madness, we like to cuss them because we can't get to it but they do it for good reason.
Also done so that debris is less likely to hit & damage it. Believe it or not there is a method to their madness, we like to cuss them because we can't get to it but they do it for good reason.
I would have to agree and would not recommend anyone bypass any safety item. Their are plenty of people in the world who will hurt or kill themselves. I grew up running an old ford 4000 select a matic that would jump in reverse when left running and smash whomever was behind it hooking up an implement. We called it the widow maker, I jumped over the front of the hay wagon twice before I learned to never walk behind that thing if it was running. Amazing how some of us survived running the old equipment of yesteryear. I still remember cars with no seatbelts and riding in the back of pick up trucks almost every day. I also remember owners manuals with no safety instructions some how we just figured it out. I'm sure their is someone just waiting to sue Kubota because they were stupid enough to run over their own foot. One thing I learned many years ago was to never touch a key or jumper cables of any equipment or truck that's in gear while standing where it can run over you. My buddy put jumper cables on a old Ford F100 stick shift with a stuck starter solenoid as I watched him get crushed between two trucks. It started.