M9000 Injector Pump

Tyork

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First post! Dad and I have had an M9000 for 11 years now, bought it used with 1000 hrs on it. Outside of a few normal maintenance, it's never given us a days trouble.

Recently though, the fuel shut off solenoid has been acting up, causing it to die immediately after starting it. Finally the other day while I was out of town the solenoid went out completely. My idiot brother in law tried to bleed the injectors thinking it just lost prime and then proceeded to drain the battery trying to start it.

I fixed the shut off solenoid, changed the fuel filters (cause dad hasn't changed them in years), and then with some difficulty and injector line bleeding got the tractor started.

It ran ok, but had what sounded like a miss, I noticed that the two inside injector lines were leaking from the bottom nuts (plungers?) on the pump. I shut it off and took the two outside injector lines off, including the bottom nuts. I was careful to remove the springs that came out with them. I tightened and re installed all lower nuts (plungers?) and top lines.

This time when i bled all the lines and got the tractor started the engine tried to run away, neither the manual nor the electric kill worked, and it wouldnt answer to throttle inputs. I ended up having to close off the intake manifold to get it to die, luckily it didn't rev to high before I realised what it was doing and I got it stopped.

I need help deciding where to go from here. Basically do I throw in the towel and order a new IP or are there any other tests/tricks I can try?

Thanx for your time.
 

SidecarFlip

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The top nuts{delivery valve holders} must be TORQUED to 30-35 FT lbs..
TO TIGHT & you'll lock down the rack..
Which is exactly what you did I believe. Hope you put the correct shut off solenoid in as well. The M9 takes a short rod on the shut off. I know, Just replaced mine. 100 bucks at the dealer.

My pump has copper sealing washers that also need replaced or annealed when fitting up the lines.

My 9 is an early 2000 model bought new pampered but run hard.
 

Tyork

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Ok, that's probably what I did, I snuggled them up, because one of them was leaking around the base, I assume I need to check and see if it has an o-ring that needs to be replaced. My brother in law didn't hold back up on them while he tightened and loosened the injector lines to bleed them, so they were all loose.
 

Tyork

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Kubota M9000
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Ok, that's probably what I did, I snuggled them up, because one of them was leaking around the base, I assume I need to check and see if it has an o-ring that needs to be replaced. My brother in law didn't hold back up on them while he tightened and loosened the injector lines to bleed them, so they were all loose.
 

Tyork

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Kubota M9000
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Also is there a torque spec for the keeper bars that hold the delivery valves at their torque specs?
 

SidecarFlip

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When all else fails, take the bolt head diameter and pitch and refer to your owners manual, there is a bolt size relative torque value in it that pertains to general fasteners. It's in my manual so it's in yours.

Owners manuals are wonderful things.
 

Tyork

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Ok, I torqued down the delivery valves, and replaced the bars, and still the same thing. Honestly though I don't think it's trying to run away, it just won't respond to throttle response or input from either kill switch. Is there a diagram anywhere online of these pumps?
 

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What has happened is the delivery valves have come out of time, on some model pumps the locks keep the delivery valves in time, you undoing the locks and pulling out parts has unaligned the delivery valves.

I would recommend you pull out the injection pump, remove and save the shim and send the pump to be rebuilt.

Also if there was any chance that any contaminates got into the fuel, lines, or pump, you might want the pull the injectors and have them rebuilt at the same time.
 
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thepumpguysc

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Its def. not gonna fix itself.. the damage is done.
Pull it.. & check your private msg box for instructions.
If u keep "playing with it" its only gonna get worse & you can cause more damage..
..run-away..