LX2610 Manual Says No Tire Fluid When Operating the Loader

GaryDemo

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I was surprised to find this in the manual - I just purchased the tractor and was reading through the manual last night, and it stated that you should drain any tire fluid before operating the loader. That's actually one of the reasons I was thinking of adding fluid - to help offset the weight in the loader. Am I missing something?
 

kubotafreak

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Can you be more specific? Front or rear wheels? Tire selection matters too, some are closer to max rated load than others.
 

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I was surprised to find this in the manual - I just purchased the tractor and was reading through the manual last night, and it stated that you should drain any tire fluid before operating the loader. That's actually one of the reasons I was thinking of adding fluid - to help offset the weight in the loader. Am I missing something?
Whatever they may be, Kubota has their reasons for such instructions.

Relatedly, I never use liquid ballast for multiple reasons. A ballast box is more effective, easily removed, useful for other purposes, and priced similarly to beet juice.
 
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GaryDemo

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Rear tires. I am mainly interested in rear weight ballast for operating the loader and front mounted snow blower (which I'm currently waiting for).
 

kubotafreak

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Whatever they may be, Kubota has their reasons for such instructions.

Relatedly, I never use liquid ballast for multiple reasons. A ballast box is more effective, easily removed, useful for other purposes, and priced similarly to beet juice.
Same, I feel cast wheel weights are preferable, however costly. But some of these smaller rigs do not have provisions to mount cast weights...

OP,
Then they(Kubota) are probably afraid of you overloading the front axle in some way. Like SDT says...
 

nbryan

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My B2650 manual only says to not use filled tires together with my BH77 backhoe. Nothing about with the loader. I don't have filled tires. My rear ballast is usually my BB1560 box blade, as it does great work moving gravel, dirt, and snow too.
 

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They have been know to have mistakes in their manuals. I can't think of any reason for removing fluid for loader work, that's counterintuitive. I had asked for my tires to not be filled, the dealer filled them out of habit saying they always fill them if a loader is attached as standard practice. I did not get charged for it. I don't think the dealer would fill them for the loader if it was opposite of what the manual calls for. Mine is the older b2650 version but there shouldn't be a difference. I would specifically ask your dealer to verify for you.
 

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I don't know why they would say that but my only comment about fel use and ballast is loaded tires don't help. Only ballast behind the rear axle relieves pressure on the front axle.
 
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ken erickson

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When I purchased my loader equiped L2501 my dealer had me sign a pre-printed disclaimer saying I opted out of having the tires filled as per their recommendations. My son works for a tire company and I gave him the business.
 

Jared 756

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Every tractor with a loader that we setup has fluid in the rears, even 2610's. Becomes a safety concern for doing loader work with an un ballasted tractor.

 
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Geezer3d

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The beauty of loaded tires is it doesn't load the axle, the weight is directly on the ground.
Good point. Yes. That would be true especially for the front axle. The rear axle would have lifting forces applied when the loader is working. Still, I would expect the axles to be strong enough to handle these loads.
 

Freeheeler

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I don't know why they would say that but my only comment about fel use and ballast is loaded tires don't help. Only ballast behind the rear axle relieves pressure on the front axle.
Loaded rears do help. Any weight behind the front axle is ballast to help keep the rear of the tractor on the ground vs going up in the air (pivoting on the front axle. This weight also gets transferred to the front axle as the loader exerts force. You are correct that weight added behind the rear axle can transfer some of that force from the front axle to the rear axle. Loaded tires ballast the front, but do not transfer any forces from the front to the rear.
 

kreuss

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I was surprised to find this in the manual - I just purchased the tractor and was reading through the manual last night, and it stated that you should drain any tire fluid before operating the loader. That's actually one of the reasons I was thinking of adding fluid - to help offset the weight in the loader. Am I missing something?
Interesting, I had not noticed this and have read the manual a few times. I just checked and sure enough it says:
  • While the backhoe is installed on the tractor, the liquid ballast in the rear tires should be removed.
  • While the loader is installed on the CAB tractor, the liquid ballast in the rear tires should be removed.
So it's backhoe or CAB+loader where they don't want you to us it.
 

Old Bob

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Interesting, I had not noticed this and have read the manual a few times. I just checked and sure enough it says:
  • While the backhoe is installed on the tractor, the liquid ballast in the rear tires should be removed.
  • While the loader is installed on the CAB tractor, the liquid ballast in the rear tires should be removed.
So it's backhoe or CAB+loader where they don't want you to us it.
You would think you would want loaded tires with the cab to keep it from tipping over
 

kreuss

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You would think you would want loaded tires with the cab to keep it from tipping over
I never understood the reasoning for the backhoe warning either. My machine feels more tippy with the backhoe on due to the extra weight up high. Loaded tires help with that. One theory I heard was that the roll bar may not be rated/tested for the extra weight in a rollover.
 

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I suspect it might have more to do with the weight carrying capacity of the tire themselves. As the tires being loaded the weight is not being carried by the axles. On a side note I weighed my new LX2610 Rops with a 60" bucket and a 6' Trarter back blade on a quick hitch. The tires are the large R4's (15/19.5's) loaded with beet juice (RimGuard) it's a total of 3,555 lbs LF was 726 lbs, RF 706 Lbs, LR 1126 Lbs and RR 997 Lbs.
I'm assuming the right rear has about 10 gallon less beet juice than the left. Regardless that was heavier than I expected by a good 500 pounds...
 

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When I bought my Lx2610 Cab model, one of the first things the dealer recommended was to fill the back tires.
 

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I don't know why they would say that but my only comment about fel use and ballast is loaded tires don't help. Only ballast behind the rear axle relieves pressure on the front axle.
Filled tires provide excellent counterweight, along with a heavy implement. Neither weight alone is sufficient to allow safe use of the loader at max capacity.
 
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