L2501 config. advice

bbxlr8

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Hi All, First post, and many thanks to the community here for all of the info and advice that I have absorbed over that last year lurking!

Settled and about to pull the trigger on L2501 as TLB.
FWIW: Have 20y using small Ford with 60"mmm and various minor attachments etc. Have approx 15 acres and many grading/dirt/rock projects stacked up for TLB and am going with the 525 & 77 w thumb. I do a lot of clearing & firewood (up 'til now the hard way!).

KEY Questions:
1) Should I have the dealer install the "Kubota" third function setup before delivery? (I have not costed it yet) but see the summit kit that a lot of people use is about $580

2) Also, If I run the BH77 mostly full-time, should I fill the tires up front (edit: sorry for the confusion I meant rears @ time of purchase ).

I am on the fence budget-wise as I know I will want a grapple sooner rather than later. I am reasonably experienced mechanically (tractor maintenance & old cars etc) and watched some videos regarding 3 Fxn installation, selection & various options on grapple types. It is a very major purchase to me and I have to draw the line but don't want to be stupid about it.

Thanks in advance!
 
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BigG

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This will serve you well as a grapple, as a rake, and as an aid to fill the bucket. It is the best money I ever spent on an attachment. Used it Saturday to clean out the shed and I did not have to do very much hand work as the bucket retained the hay and manure very well. I have had this one on 2 tractors over 15 years carrying logs, brush, dirt and anything else that will fit.

 

je1279

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1) Yes if there's not a big price difference. Otherwise, you should be able to install a kit yourself with your experience above.
2) I wouldn't as you can use a bucket full of dirt as ballast for the front.
3) If you are financing the purchase get the grapple now. Then it's not a $2000 hit at once but spread out over 60-84 months, hopefully at 0% interest.
 
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DVR

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No, to filling the front tires. use weights if you feel the need.
Or just put a scoop of dirt in the bucket when you use the BH (as mentioned)
 
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bbxlr8

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Thanks for the info. It is a good deal on the finance now, but everything has a way of snowballing.

SO... I know this is not the implement section, but is the LP grapple a good way to go (it is the only option up-front right)?

From info here and reviews/videos, it looks like there are some very good ones outside of LP out there.
I think I will be mainly using for logs, top limbs, brush etc.
 

Nicfin36

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I had the dealer install my 3rd Function. I think it was $850. I see no need to fill the front tires and don't exactly understand the relationship of needing it for the backhoe.

The Add A Grapple Big G linked looked pretty good. You can always get that or just wait and save up for a grapple later, but you will already have the 3rd function already there for when you do. That would pretty handy to have on a bucket anyway though.
 

Nicfin36

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Do you know the model Land Pride grapple and cost? I got the EA Attachments 55 Wicked grapple and have been happy with it.
 

UpNorthMI

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I paid $900 to have a 3rd function hydraulic kit fitted on a L3901 (same as L2501), I just posted about a nice compact grapple that I purchased from MTL Attachments that was a lot of value at $999 delivered as it was a twin lid unit with 2 hydraulic cylinders.

See:

EA wicked grapples are very well made but just so expensive and they are single lid, a twin lid will hold variable loads better.
 

je1279

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I'd go with the SGC0660 Land Pride grapple if I was financing it. Looks like it can be had for about the same price as a Wiked 55" grapple. I do agree with @UpNorthMI that a two lid is more ideal but with a smaller compact tractor I'd prefer the extra lifting capacity.
 
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bbxlr8

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Thanks again all. Sorry for the confusion on the tire fill. Meant getting them done at the time of purchase and the overall need in general - IF I had the BH to balance the load in front...
 

PaulL

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1. Grapple and 3rd function. If you're getting it soon, get it at time of purchase. Dealer will give you a discount, you can finance it. Yes you can do it yourself, but potentially not cheaper than you'll get a price on at time of purchase. But it's a money question, seems it's not hard to install yourself, so if it's cheaper to do it yourself and you're happy / enjoy doing so, then do it.

2. Filling tires. I believe it's generally not recommended with a backhoe - the extra weight in the tires is hard on the rams that lift the rear of the tractor with a backhoe. And when you're using the loader, put a counter weight on (the BH is a great counter weight, but so are lots of other things). I don't personally believe it's necessary to fill tires - what do you need filled rear tires for?
 

bbxlr8

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Thanks all for the info.

Re: the tire fill, that was what my gut was telling me but haven't seen any discussion of that particular question in the archives. I will not do so and don't anticipate doing a lot of loader work w/out the backhoe. However, most people universally seem to find that there are many more uses and jobs once you have it available so it is not out of the question.

I am very excited to have actually pulled the trigger as you can analyze it to death! ;) Based on input here, I AM getting the third fxn dealer installed. Still on the fence re the LP gapple vs other aftermarket ones, but have a few weeks sitting tight while it is prepped to decide.
 
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Nicfin36

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My tires came filled and I didn't ask for them to be, but did not object when I saw it noted on my quote. I have no problem with them being filled. A flat tire may be a pain with them. The consensus here on why Kubota doesn't recommend filled tires with a backhoe is due to a possible rollover hazard and the rollbar failing. I really haven't worried about it. I seems many run backhoes with rear filled tires. All that weight will leave tracks on wet soil.
 

PaulL

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I usually give the same advice on filled tires. There are some disadvantages to filled tires, and some advantages. The advantages are stability and ballast. I believe that in most cases you can get those in other ways. The disadvantages are ongoing weight even when you don't want it (wet lawns), problems with changing or fixing tires, depending on what fluid you use it can rust your rims.

My view is you start without, it's easy to add it later if you need it. If you start with it, you'll never take it out, and never know if you actually needed it. You could get it added at the 50 hour service probably if you needed it. Or do it yourself.
 

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I have 4701 with Bh 92 did not fill rear tires hoe is plenty of ballast.I use ballast box with QH when needed I use tractor around house and yard don’t won’t extra weight when not needed.Obviously your tractor is lighter bare weight if you find your self light for pulling grade box set of disc etc you can explore tires filled or well weights .You also have FEL which gives you weight you can put some weight in front bucket tractor on 4x4 should help you pull rear implement or suit case front weights ?? I only needed ballast box for full buckets of dirt or pallet fork loads over 1500 lbs.
 

bbxlr8

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Update: Went ahead and rolled the LP SGC0660 Grapple into the package after getting a very good price quote from the dealer. Expect to use on mostly logs/brush/rocks so it looks to be a decent balance of features. There are some nice ones out there for sure though...

I will have to be very careful with the rocks as I am on a ridge with glacial deposits throughout my woods. I joke, but it is actually the truth that I have rock sizes from softballs to Suburbans laying around! :confused:

BH is en route to the dealer and the eta on delivery to me is about 2 weeks...!! Going to wait on filling the tires for now.
 
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bbxlr8

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One more question regarding the bucket:

I am getting the L2256 66" Quick Attach with the LA525. Is there a heavier duty QA bucket from Kubota and if so, how much weight does it add? Doesn't seem an option when configuring or to be readily available info from Kubota...?