Help me protect myself

Scranton

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I'm looking at buying a private sale kubota, 2011 bx25.
I'd like to do the best I can to protect myself in this sale.
My thoughts are this:
Can I verify that the tractor for sale is in fact owned by the person selling it (title.. anything like that)?
I've looked into a UCC search.
I've talked with Kubota, I can find out if the tractor was financed through them and if it has liens being held by them or if it was paid off. I can find the dealership it was sold at?
Is there any paperwork I should be asking the seller for?
Anything I'm missing... I'm sure there are tons of things.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
 

North Idaho Wolfman

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WOW I would be more worried about the seller not disclosing hidden damage than I would be about the rest of what you are worried about.

A good bill of sale from the buyer to you is all it takes with a tractor, it doesn't have a title or anything else like that.

If your still worried get the bill of sale notarized would be about your best bet.

Must be a lot of crooks in your area???
 

aeblank

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I talked to the dealer my used bota was purchased through. And to kubota financing. That's about all i could come up with. Maybe local cop shop.

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Unless there are circumstances not being disclosed, you are REALLY over thinking all of this. Just my 2¢

Ron

 

rparkinson

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I hear where you are coming from. I would ask where he bought the machine. If he bought it from a dealer and had a loan there is no reason (as long as the note was paid) why the seller can not produce a loan satisfaction letter for the machine.I would think that if he paid cash for it then either he would have the slip saying it was paid for, or contact the dealer and they will tell you if the machine was paid for.
 

aeblank

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I don't think you'll get any of those items, unless he's desperate to sell. It's a seller's market. Also, some say paranoia, but a close friend had his 100-ish hp JD taken by the police after trying to get parts using the sn.

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rparkinson

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I agree. there is a good chance you wont. But if they cant understand you don't want to fork over however many thousands of dollars unless they can prove they actually own the machine you dont want to do business with them either. I would want to know if I were you too. Its business. I am sure there are plenty of people that would buy it no questions asked, and that is fine. But it is a good way to get burned no doubt about it. A brand new Kubota was stolen at my local dealership a couple years ago. You should check out the pics they have on there site. Union Farm in Maine. The pics were as they were driving that new Kubota right through the fence at night. I don't know, good luck to you-
 

rob82

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Unless youre getting a super deal I would buy a new one. The prices of used ones are fairly high. Just my opinion for a little more you know what youre getting.
 

Wbk

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I'm looking at buying a private sale kubota, 2011 bx25.
I'd like to do the best I can to protect myself in this sale.
My thoughts are this:
Can I verify that the tractor for sale is in fact owned by the person selling it (title.. anything like that)?
I've looked into a UCC search.
I've talked with Kubota, I can find out if the tractor was financed through them and if it has liens being held by them or if it was paid off. I can find the dealership it was sold at?
Is there any paperwork I should be asking the seller for?
Anything I'm missing... I'm sure there are tons of things.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Hi, My kid brother is an insurance investigator and what he says about stolen vehicles and equipment would make you wonder about the honesty of people. If you think the deal is too good to be true then it's probably stolen, if you think the seller is a little shady then use your gut feeling. You should realise that serial numbers can be altered, a good crook knows where all the numbers are including all of the secondary ones and if you don't think they can't make them look authentic your mistaken. Hope this was of some help Barry