Front backhoe usefulness?

RichardD

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I have thought about whether or not how useful a quick attach front backhoe would work on my tractor loader. I have a Kubota MX5100 with a FEL. There are quite a few manufacturers who make the front backhoe attachment, but most are used on a skid loader. I don’t have a skid loader and they say the front backhoe will work on a tractor. To me it looks like it wouldn’t work very well, a lot of moving the tractor around. If anyone has one on a tractor let me know what you think of it.
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Richard
 

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I have thought about whether or not how useful a quick attach front backhoe would work on my tractor loader. I have a Kubota MX5100 with a FEL. There are quite a few manufacturers who make the front backhoe attachment, but most are used on a skid loader. I don’t have a skid loader and they say the front backhoe will work on a tractor. To me it looks like it wouldn’t work very well, a lot of moving the tractor around. If anyone has one on a tractor let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Richard
Richard,

im sure a fronthoe will mount on your MX and it will work but not sure it is a wise or great long term solution.

as you mentioned a lot of moving the tractor around and it would be very difficult to see what you are doing.

I own an MX, a track loader and an excavator, they are all different machines and have their uses. A backhoe puts a lot of force back through a tractor, that’s why they come with a heavy chassis rear type mount. A skid loader has a lot of weight and a very solid mounting front plate, very different to a front end loader on a tractor . Skid loader also has better hydraulic flow and controls.

I would not consider putting a front mount backhoe onto my tractor front end loader, as you say they are designed for skid / track loaders, I’d be seriously concerned about the FEL managing the forces involved.

Either get a backhoe for your tractor or rent a mini excavator when you need to.
 
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RichardD

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Richard,

im sure a fronthoe will mount on your MX and it will work but not sure it is a wise or great long term solution.

as you mentioned a lot of moving the tractor around and it would be very difficult to see what you are doing.

I own an MX, a track loader and an excavator, they are all different machines and have their uses. A backhoe puts a lot of force back through a tractor, that’s why they come with a heavy chassis rear type mount. A skid loader has a lot of weight and a very solid mounting front plate, very different to a front end loader on a tractor . Skid loader also has better hydraulic flow and controls.

I would not consider putting a front mount backhoe onto my tractor front end loader, as you say they are designed for skid / track loaders, I’d be seriously concerned about the FEL managing the forces involved.

Either get a backhoe for your tractor or rent a mini excavator when you need to.
Thanks for your reply and advice. We may only use it a couple times a year for repairing frozen hydrants or something similar so it really makes economic sense to rent one when needed.
 

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Thanks for your reply and advice. We may only use it a couple times a year for repairing frozen hydrants or something similar so it really makes economic sense to rent one when needed.
Do not get a front backhoe. Backhoes worth anything at all are pretty heavy (BH92 is 1800 lbs and has only a 9 ft reach). Stresses of a backhoe require a very study mount to the subframe (they do make some 3PT hoes but I don't think they are a good idea). Mounting one to a FEL that has no direct frame support besides the mounting point by the operators station is asking for trouble.
 
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I have a friend who has one for his skid steer, his biggest complaint is he can't see down in the hole very well, I would think it would be worse if it were on a tractor. In addition I feel the fel arms are not designed for the side force that a BH would apply.
 
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fried1765

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lol, ive never used one. just seems like an ok option for someone that doesnt dig lots. im actually surprised by how much i use the BH on my little BX. no regrets on getting a TLB.
Your "little BX" is likely one fine digging machine compared to anything HF even dreams about!
 
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stuff to consider..
1) find a SS BH you 'like' the specs of....
2) see IF your tractor can supply the GPM@pressure for it( and what RPM...)
if it passes 1 and 2, what is the price, all in, delivery, taxes, etc.
consider how many hours you could rent a miniex for the SS BH....

also consider ,when the SSBH is on, your tractor is 'dedicated' to BH digging only...
 
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stuff to consider..
1) find a SS BH you 'like' the specs of....
2) see IF your tractor can supply the GPM@pressure for it( and what RPM...)
if it passes 1 and 2, what is the price, all in, delivery, taxes, etc.
consider how many hours you could rent a miniex for the SS BH....

also consider ,when the SSBH is on, your tractor is 'dedicated' to BH digging only...
One more thing!
Consider how many times you would rent a mini-ex for that unplanned 30 minute job!
Convenience/availability is everything for a BH attachment.
 
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