Bucket Lift - Pivot Pin

[Dalroo]

Okay, 2nd post. I searched for this, read owner's manual, and looked on line and can't find an answer, so hope it hasn't already been answered at length.

On my LA1065 Loader it has a lift capacity of 2275 lbs at Pivot Pin. But I noticed when the tractor was delivered the dealer had used the Cross Member Tube as the tie down point. That would put it about 24" (roughly) behind the bucket pivot pin, and would seem to me be a stronger option for lifting of other objects, and still provide clearance to nose of tractor. It would also seem to be closer to fulcrum, and the physics would make it more stable. Length, Arm, and Moment if my brain has held the concept.

I need to move some stuff off of a trailer and going to chain to Loader to lift, but curious which is the better location for hooking. Bucket or Cross Member Tube. The weight is not really an issue, under 1,000 lbs, but curious for future reference.

 

[85Hokie]

Okay, 2nd post. I searched for this, read owner's manual, and looked on line and can't find an answer, so hope it hasn't already been answered at length.

On my LA1065 Loader it has a lift capacity of 2275 lbs at Pivot Pin. But I noticed when the tractor was delivered the dealer had used the Cross Member Tube as the tie down point. That would put it about 24" (roughly) behind the bucket pivot pin, and would seem to me be a stronger option for lifting of other objects, and still provide clearance to nose of tractor. It would also seem to be closer to fulcrum, and the physics would make it more stable. Length, Arm, and Moment if my brain has held the concept.

I need to move some stuff off of a trailer and going to chain to Loader to lift, but curious which is the better location for hooking. Bucket or Cross Member Tube. The weight is not really an issue, under 1,000 lbs, but curious for future reference.

If I understand you question correctly...... you want to know where to chain to what part?

If the bucket it to be used then I would use the hooks on the bucket, if there are not hooks then you must wrap the bucket or use the cross member as a tie point - however the IS NO advantage of the tie down point if the weight is on the outside past the hook down point. For example - if you were to lift a large object up and off the ground and the bucket is used then the ratio is where ever the out most point of the weight is established and the tie point will not effect that, IF HOWEVER - you dont need to raise it but a little bit of distance the cross member WILL have a huge mechanical advantage over the bucket......BUT the height for which it can be raised is limited! And again the tie down points will really not matter. The drawback to chaining/tying to the cross member is the fact that it will eat up paint (chains) or have an ability to slide on that smooth round surface ( straps )

the advantage of the hooks on the bucket is that they should never move and if done correctly - will stay until you remove them!

But I agree too - the lower the object is held closer to the fulcrum the safer it is to move - no question there!

the mechanical advantage is always the distance vs the weight....more weight can be lifted closer to the fulcrum (assuming same load on opposite side)

and the flip side - the weight can be lifted higher - further away from the fulcrum, but as it goes up - so does the ENTIRE center of gravity of the entire tractor!

 

[Kingcreek]

I would stay away from the cross tube, myself.
If something is going to get tweaked, I would rather it be the bucket top. and the cross tube is going to be uncomfortably close to the tractor or brush guard.
If lifting is to be a frequent task, I would use pallet forks and a lifting ring on the fork frame.
My bucket is a heavy duty round back construction bucket with reinforced top with hooks and even it has a little bow down the middle of it. I don't even know when it happened but if it was a standard bucket it would really be puckered.

 

[D2Cat]

Don't use the cross tube to tie on to.

Don't hook your load to the outside edges of your bucket either. Have a hook in the middle of the bucket to keep the bucket from getting sprung/twisted

 

[Dalroo]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the feedback.

I need to get hooks for bucket.

 

[Kingcreek]

2 hooks, in line with the loader arms
If you need only one chain to lift a heavy item rig a short chain to both hooks and let it hang lower than your cutting edge and hook to it in the middle. Spreads the weight evenly on the loader and 2 points on the cutting edge.

 

[Tooljunkie]

I saw hooks welded inside the cross tube. Was on ex job. Never ever saw a use for them.