Vertical Wood splitter Hydraulics

[Beebad]

I fashioned a wood splitter to fit the kubota. All I need now are to run hydraulic lines from bucket roll lines to the wood splitter, but I am not sure what I should know before doing this. I want to use the Kubota's hydraulics to power the wood splitter. Can this or should this be done?

• Measure distance from front hydraulics to the wood splitter.
• determine working pressure and diameter of the hose.
• hose plus two couplers?
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• i will probably need 10ft of hydraulic hose for each side. What is a good source for this hose. The couplers I can find at tractor supply.
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[North Idaho Wolfman]

Why would you want to operate the splitter with the loader valve?

 

[Bee-Positive]

My question also.
Have you totally ruled out just adding rear remotes (or maybe a PTO driven pump)?
You could then still use your loader for hauling wood.

 

[Killer Bee]

maybe I'm misunderstanding your plan.. are you intending to operate the log splitter from the bucket controls in the cab? not sure you can get there from here, not easily anyway. and that would surely be most inconvenient to operate.

definitely rear remote is the right way to power a 3pt mounted implement with local controls.

I would bite the bullet now (buy once - cry once) and install at least single function and depending on cost difference would consider doubles if not terribly much more. you will thank yourself for the versatility and convenience for years to come. and the sooner the better while parts are readily available for your seemingly newer machine. it would also seem you have the skills to install yourself saving dealer labor.

as for hoses, standard 2 wire 100r2 1/2" or 5/8" depending on desired flow/speed of your cylinder and system specs. at minimum make sure hose working pressure rating is above system rated, especially on a log splitter with potential to deadhead on relief repeatedly. match your qds to whatever the rest of your attachments are. any decent local hydraulic shop should be able to make you up a nice set of hoses for your log splitter.

btw, nice fab skills! good luck hookin her up!

 

[skeets]

Thats a nice idea, but I dont know if your hydro system will give you everything you need. Maybe the pump off the splitter and the control valve that was on the splitter, and a separate oil tank,,, Plus to my way of thinking trying to control the ram like you want might not be enough flow or pressure,, I don't know

 

[Bee-Positive]

maybe I'm misunderstanding your plan.. are you intending to operate the log splitter from the bucket controls in the cab?

btw, nice fab skills! good luck hookin her up!

Looking at the pictures there's a control valve on the splitter.

If you run the hydraulics from the loader wouldn't you need to connect before the loader control (where rear remotes would go anyways). Otherwise you'd get no flow without moving the FEL joystick AND the splitter lever?

If I'm missing the obvious be nice - I'm easily confused these days...

 

[Beebad]

maybe I'm misunderstanding your plan.. are you intending to operate the log splitter from the bucket controls in the cab? not sure you can get there from here, not easily anyway. and that would surely be most inconvenient to operate.

definitely rear remote is the right way to power a 3pt mounted implement with local controls.

I would bite the bullet now (buy once - cry once) and install at least single function and depending on cost difference would consider doubles if not terribly much more. you will thank yourself for the versatility and convenience for years to come. and the sooner the better while parts are readily available for your seemingly newer machine. it would also seem you have the skills to install yourself saving dealer labor.

as for hoses, standard 2 wire 100r2 1/2" or 5/8" depending on desired flow/speed of your cylinder and system specs. at minimum make sure hose working pressure rating is above system rated, especially on a log splitter with potential to deadhead on relief repeatedly. match your qds to whatever the rest of your attachments are. any decent local hydraulic shop should be able to make you up a nice set of hoses for your log splitter.

btw, nice fab skills! good luck hookin her up!

DOH, I forgot what is involved here...The Kubota's hydraulics are controlled by the bucket controls inside the cab. You are right. I was thinking the hydraulics were a constant pressure thing, but they are not.

 

[Beebad]

My question also.
Have you totally ruled out just adding rear remotes (or maybe a PTO driven pump)?
You could then still use your loader for hauling wood.

Pto driven pump!

 

[Beebad]

Looking at the pictures there's a control valve on the splitter.

If you run the hydraulics from the loader wouldn't you need to connect before the loader control (where rear remotes would go anyways). Otherwise you'd get no flow without moving the FEL joystick AND the splitter lever?

If I'm missing the obvious be nice - I'm easily confused these days...

Ye, me too! This is a new realm for me… I will investigate where else I can get hydraulics that comes off the kubota, before the loader controls.

 

[Beebad]

maybe I'm misunderstanding your plan.. are you intending to operate the log splitter from the bucket controls in the cab? not sure you can get there from here, not easily anyway. and that would surely be most inconvenient to operate.

definitely rear remote is the right way to power a 3pt mounted implement with local controls.

I would bite the bullet now (buy once - cry once) and install at least single function and depending on cost difference would consider doubles if not terribly much more. you will thank yourself for the versatility and convenience for years to come. and the sooner the better while parts are readily available for your seemingly newer machine. it would also seem you have the skills to install yourself saving dealer labor.

as for hoses, standard 2 wire 100r2 1/2" or 5/8" depending on desired flow/speed of your cylinder and system specs. at minimum make sure hose working pressure rating is above system rated, especially on a log splitter with potential to deadhead on relief repeatedly. match your qds to whatever the rest of your attachments are. any decent local hydraulic shop should be able to make you up a nice set of hoses for your log splitter.

btw, nice fab skills! good luck hookin her up!

No …operate the splitter WITH hydraulics to the bucket roll….but seriously, I do not know what j am talking about. Rear remote? I will investigate.

 

[Beebad]

https://www.woodsplitterdirect.com/products/16-ton-tractor-3-point-log-splitter

 

[Killer Bee]

 

[Kennyd4110]

You 'could' do your plan, but you will have to bungee the joystick so you get constant flow to the splitters valve.

Add a PB (power beyond) loop at the rear would be better for feeding the splitter, and not all that much more expensive over your original plan.

 

[Russell King]

DOH, I forgot what is involved here...The Kubota's hydraulics are controlled by the bucket controls inside the cab. You are right. I was thinking the hydraulics were a constant pressure thing, but they are not.

I think the simple way to get this done would be to locate the two hoses that tap into the tracror hydraulic circuit. One would be going into the P port of the FEL valve. The other would be connected to the PB ada sleeve in a T port. BUT there is also another hose connected to another T port for tank return. Don’t use that hose for your splitter.

Those two correct hoses should be connected to a block on the tractor that should have a diverter valve for when you remove the FEL. This should all be covered in the operation manual for your tractor.

If you added two quick disconnects to the block and those two hoses (I would make one tractor side male and the other point female so they can’t be mixed up) then you could remove the FEL from the circuit and route two hoses back to the splitter valve. That would provide continuous flow to the splitter, disable the FEL, and allow usage of the three point hitch (which would probably not be needed).

 

[Beebad]

I think the simple way to get this done would be to locate the two hoses that tap into the tracror hydraulic circuit. One would be going into the P port of the FEL valve. The other would be connected to the PB ada sleeve in a T port. BUT there is also another hose connected to another T port for tank return. Don’t use that hose for your splitter.

Those two correct hoses should be connected to a block on the tractor that should have a diverter valve for when you remove the FEL. This should all be covered in the operation manual for your tractor.

If you added two quick disconnects to the block and those two hoses (I would make one tractor side male and the other point female so they can’t be mixed up) then you could remove the FEL from the circuit and route two hoses back to the splitter valve. That would provide continuous flow to the splitter, disable the FEL, and allow usage of the three point hitch (which would probably not be needed).

Wow! I wil see how feasible this is. I looked at installing a remote kit and that is overkill for this application and I would just use the other splitter. But your solution seems to be not “rigged” and I will dig up the manual and rake a deeper dive . Is this a dumb idea to have a splitter on the tractor?

 

[Bee-Positive]

Is this a dumb idea to have a splitter on the tractor?

Not if it works for you and your situation. Try it and see, you may even come up with Version 2, 3, 4... or completely change directions until you're happy. That's the joy of fabricating. Take more pictures and let us know how you make out.

 

[Beebad]

Not if it works for you and your situation. Try it and see, you may even come up with Version 2, 3, 4... or completely change directions until you're happy. That's the joy of fabricating. Take more pictures and let us know how you make out.

https://data.powerequipmentdata.com/assets/EQASSID_92_Kubota_L3560,_L4060,_L4760,_L5060,_L5460,_L6060_Manual.pdf

i couldn't find mention of FEL or FEL joystick, hydraulic circuit…

 

[D2Cat]

Looks like your tractor originated from Independence, Mo. They are now Coleman in Lee's Summit.

 

[Bee-Positive]

i couldn't find mention of FEL or FEL joystick, hydraulic circuit…
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[Beebad]

Looks like your tractor originated from Independence, Mo. They are now Coleman in Lee's Summit.

what you talkin ‘bout Willis?