I have a few feet of 1/2" flexible hydraulic hose that attaches to a Land Pride STB1072 snow trip blade, it runs from the front of my L2501 to the manifold on the plow. The outer jacket has worn through from rubbing just on one of the hoses. Can I re wrap this spot with something or not fixable and needs to be replaced? The spot with the visible metal braid is ~12" long. Entire hose is ~30"
Patch hydraulic hose? Or replace?
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Well since it’s on a snow blade if/when it blows out how long would it take to get a replacement hose? Is it something you need to be able to leave your house?
This situation I’d say go ahead and replace it, that said I have a hose that looks rough on my offset disc, that I’ll wait until it busts fully.
This situation I’d say go ahead and replace it, that said I have a hose that looks rough on my offset disc, that I’ll wait until it busts fully.
hmm, 1/2" x 6' hose, NPTM NPTM is about $30 CDN. A 'no brainer' to replace and add 'hose wrap' at the same time.I's spend another $1 and get a swivel end on one end.
I agree with @JasonW. If you can live with the hose failing one day while moving snow, then wait until it fails. If you want it to look better in the meantime then cover it with some wrap. If you want to reduce further damage or don't want to damage a new hose, then secure the hose to the loader.
I bought a STB1596 in the winter of '21 and am now using it for the fifth year and the hoses look new still. Proper hose management goes a long way to reducing cost and improving reliability. I use a rubber bungee to keep the hoses under control, and I also cover the snow blade in the summer months to protect the hoses from UV. I really should buy some sleeving that I've installed over hoses on other implements but it's low on the list of priorities.
I took this photo a few moments ago.
If it was just the rubber outer jacket, I would have no problem wrapping it with electrical tape or similar.... Done it many times.
However, In your case the inner braided steel reinforcement layer is chewed up.
My $0.02 .... Replace it.
Be aware, when a hydraulic hose leaks while under pressure NEVER put your hand (or any other part of your body) in the path of the oil flow. You're dealing with a couple thousand pounds of pressure and can go through your skin like a sewing needle, might end up with blood poisoning.
No brainer
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Replace.
If you are in a area where replacement hoses are not readily available, you might consider getting a spare.
Just duplicate the longest one, and you'll have an emergency backup- you can usually ziptie any excess length until you can replace it with the actual length you need.
If you are in a area where replacement hoses are not readily available, you might consider getting a spare.
Just duplicate the longest one, and you'll have an emergency backup- you can usually ziptie any excess length until you can replace it with the actual length you need.
Replacing a 20 dollar hose before it inevitably blows up is worth not having the mess all on its own.
Factor in the inconvenience of downtime, and it’s a no-brainer. Fix it,
Factor in the inconvenience of downtime, and it’s a no-brainer. Fix it,
Exactly. That is why I struggle to understand the logic of those who profess 'waiting' until it fails' put forward?
I undersand being 'frugal' in a farm setting (different than being just plain old cheap).
But you KNOW the dang thing is going to break at the most inopertune time and place. So why not change it at your convenience and under controlled conditions.
Dont you run your tires down until the steel belts are showing then like most people wait for a blowout before replacing them
Dan
What's the big deal? It's a simple snow plow hose, not a hose on a 747. There is no right answer here, just different opinions. One option is to do nothing until it fails, another is to buy a new hose and wait until the old hose fails before installing the new one, another is to buy a new hose and immediately replace it. Why does there always have to be just one way to do something. Personally, I would be interested to see if the old hose holds up since I'd actually learn something from that experiment. I'd learn nothing by immediately replacing the hose.
As for your comparison about tires @TheOldHokie, I would have expected better from you. That's a strawman if ever I saw one.
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I’d buy a replacement and at least have it on hand. Wrap it and sleeve it if you want (probably need to sleeve or otherwise prevent further abrasion anyway), but have the replacement so you can swap it out in a few minutes if needed.
Reason 1: Only time it has an opportunity to fail is when you need it. Therefore, it will fail when you need it. And there’s damage to the braid, not just the outer jacket.
Reason 2: My history with stuff like is most of the time, particularly stuff I sort of knew needed attention but it never climbed all the way to the top of the priority list, it fails at some stupid time like 9:00 on Sunday night when I absolutely have to be at work at 8:00 the next morning, can’t get out of the driveway if I can’t get the tractor working, and have no way to source the right part. So I’m freezing in the dark trying to get bubble gum and duct tape to hold 2600psi good enough and long enough to clear the driveway before I run through all the hydraulic fluid in the tractor and in the buckets in the shed, while kicking myself for not spending $20 on a hose I’d probably pay $200 for if someone handed it to me immediately. Or I spend $75 Saturday afternoon at NAPA on a custom hose I could have gotten for $25 at Parker Hannifin Monday, but Monday is too late.
As always, your machine, your problem if it fails at an inopportune time, your money, and YMMV…
Reason 1: Only time it has an opportunity to fail is when you need it. Therefore, it will fail when you need it. And there’s damage to the braid, not just the outer jacket.
Reason 2: My history with stuff like is most of the time, particularly stuff I sort of knew needed attention but it never climbed all the way to the top of the priority list, it fails at some stupid time like 9:00 on Sunday night when I absolutely have to be at work at 8:00 the next morning, can’t get out of the driveway if I can’t get the tractor working, and have no way to source the right part. So I’m freezing in the dark trying to get bubble gum and duct tape to hold 2600psi good enough and long enough to clear the driveway before I run through all the hydraulic fluid in the tractor and in the buckets in the shed, while kicking myself for not spending $20 on a hose I’d probably pay $200 for if someone handed it to me immediately. Or I spend $75 Saturday afternoon at NAPA on a custom hose I could have gotten for $25 at Parker Hannifin Monday, but Monday is too late.
As always, your machine, your problem if it fails at an inopportune time, your money, and YMMV…
Allow me to rephrase for clarity:
Yes, I agree with you. There is no one right answer. And learning things the hard way is certainly a valid choice.
Just make sure you fully understand the implications of each choice.
No one here knows if the hose in question will fail this winter season, or if it does fail, when and where. How often is it used, how compromised is the hose, etc.? If I were heading out on roadtrip in Montana in the winter months, as I've done many times, being stranded can prove fatal. Not having the proper protective gear in your vehicle can prove fatal. Not having food and water in your vehicle can prove fatal. Having a hose blow while running a plow, with the flow in that hose controlled by a 3rd function momentary switch on the joystick, is a very low risk issue. Worst case you drive back to the shop, remove the old hose and install the new hose.
Mitigating significant risk is why I took advantage of some Black Friday pricing and ordered a Garmin inReach Mini 2. There are many areas up here that have no cell service, and even though I have a HAM radio license, the range of those radios in mountainous areas is limited. The Garmin will enable me to send and receive texts via satellite in the event that something goes wrong while driving, hiking, hunting etc. These are real risks, but a hose on a snow plow just doesn't move the needle for me.
I'm not arguing against installing a new hose right away, just the all too common theme on this forum that there's only one answer and every other option is wrong.
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That hose may very well last another 10 years, whereas a 'new' hose can fail in 10 days-especially the cheap ones being suggested here.