Vevor hydraulic steering unit for B series?

dano7200

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I find this steering power steering unit very interesting. It seems as though there is no actual pump on this? It creates 400lbs of hydraulic pressure by just turning the wheel is what I'm gathering... I could be wrong though, not sure. I can't help but to think this could be adapted to my b7200 for power steering or in this case power steering assist??. No pump to hook up or figure out how to get plumbed and have enough flow/fluid for all your hydraulic needs. Just need to figure out where to put the 2 way cylinder. Seems as though if you could hook it to the steering arm that is connected to the steering box somehow would work. Disconnect the gear portion of it.
What do you think of this unit and the possibility of using for power steering on a b7200 with a FEL?
Don't really need it but would be nice addition as a lot of people mention or want it.

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I find this steering power steering unit very interesting. It seems as though there is no actual pump on this? It creates 400lbs of hydraulic pressure by just turning the wheel is what I'm gathering... I could be wrong though, not sure. I can't help but to think this could be adapted to my b7200 for power steering or in this case power steering assist??. No pump to hook up or figure out how to get plumbed and have enough flow/fluid for all your hydraulic needs. Just need to figure out where to put the 2 way cylinder. Seems as though if you could hook it to the steering arm that is connected to the steering box somehow would work. Disconnect the gear portion of it.
What do you think of this unit and the possibility of using for power steering on a b7200 with a FEL?
Don't really need it but would be nice addition as a lot of people mention or want it.

The wheels are turning...

VEVOR Hydraulic Steering Kit 300HP, Hydraulic Boat Steering Kit Helm Pump, Hydraulic Boat Steering Kit Without Hydraulic Steering Hose for Boat Steering System | VEVOR US
Bubble buster here, you don't get something for nothing in the real world. If you want power-assisted steering, the 'assist' has to be provided, that's where the connection to the hydraulic system is required. The only way that kit would make your steering easier is if it took more turns lock-to-lock, giving up distance for force. And I don't know how you'd determine that without having it in hand.

Some guys have retrofitted their tractors with parts from a similar tractor, don't know about your model.
 
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Bubble buster here, you don't get something for nothing in the real world. If you want power-assisted steering, the 'assist' has to be provided, that's where the connection to the hydraulic system is required. The only way that kit would make your steering easier is if it took more turns lock-to-lock, giving up distance for force. And I don't know how you'd determine that without having it in hand.

Some guys have retrofitted their tractors with parts from a similar tractor, don't know about your model.
My thoughts also. My impression is that this system only allows doing away with the traditional cable and pulley system used on outboard boat engines.
 
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I find this steering power steering unit very interesting. It seems as though there is no actual pump on this? It creates 400lbs of hydraulic pressure by just turning the wheel is what I'm gathering... I could be wrong though, not sure. I can't help but to think this could be adapted to my b7200 for power steering or in this case power steering assist??. No pump to hook up or figure out how to get plumbed and have enough flow/fluid for all your hydraulic needs. Just need to figure out where to put the 2 way cylinder. Seems as though if you could hook it to the steering arm that is connected to the steering box somehow would work. Disconnect the gear portion of it.
What do you think of this unit and the possibility of using for power steering on a b7200 with a FEL?
Don't really need it but would be nice addition as a lot of people mention or want it.

The wheels are turning...

VEVOR Hydraulic Steering Kit 300HP, Hydraulic Boat Steering Kit Helm Pump, Hydraulic Boat Steering Kit Without Hydraulic Steering Hose for Boat Steering System | VEVOR US
If this kind of system worked then you would see it being used.
It simply will not work the way you think it should work.
 

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My thoughts also. My impression is that this system only allows doing away with the traditional cable and pulley system used on outboard boat engines.
My understanding is no external hydraulic system or pump is required. The pressure is created by the number of turns of the wheel mechanically with small pistons that create flow/pressure somehow. I think.. lol
im just trying to understand how it works exactly. Not finding a good explanation on the web yet. Kind of understand but still muddy water to me.
 

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If this kind of system worked then you would see it being used.
It simply will not work the way you think it should work.
Ok. Your good at huffin and puffin blowin everyones house down. I guess you know all about these too and it flat out wont work because nobody has done it.
Forget i asked. Thx
 
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I find this steering power steering unit very interesting. It seems as though there is no actual pump on this?
Yes, there is a hydraulic pump with this. It is the round blob at the top left of the first picture. But it seems as you said, no electrical connections, so basically hydraulic connection to the rudder. So it is not power steering assisted but rather a convenient way of getting a mechanical linkage from the wheel to the rudder or outboard engine.
 
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Ah, got it. Hypothetically, it your machine currently has one full rotation of the steering when to go full right to full left, you add this and it now takes six turns to go full right to full left but with 1/6th the effort.
 

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My understanding is no external hydraulic system or pump is required. The pressure is created by the number of turns of the wheel mechanically with small pistons that create flow/pressure somehow. I think.. lol
im just trying to understand how it works exactly. Not finding a good explanation on the web yet. Kind of understand but still muddy water to me.
It looks like a torque multiplier. Some older (antique) tractors did it with sprockets and chains.

You would be better off retro-fitting an electric PS system from a junked car. Real PS without hydraulics. Plenty of examples on the web.

Dan
 
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Use the electric steering from a Saturn Vue

 
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It looks like a torque multiplier. Some older (antique) tractors did it with sprockets and chains.

You would be better off retro-fitting an electric PS system from a junked car. Real PS without hydraulics. Plenty of examples on the web.

Dan
I put one from a gm on my 8N about 5 or 6 years ago. Works really good for this old guy with arthritic shoulders.

Bill
 
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UD says your 8N steering box is too weak for EPS and will quickly grenade 👿.

Dan
I don't know what or who UD is but my 8N is a working tractor. I used it for ll my snow plowing on a 300' drive. Use it for my firewood in the woods and more. I read a lot of the opinions pro and con on this on TBN after i did mine.
I'm sure there are those that would say I ruined it and by adding a front hydraulic pump and system I have converted an original Dearborn front plow to power angle too.
There is a spare EPS in the garage but so far I haven't needed it.
I did read about copper core spark plug wires interfering with the unit and notice some hesitation at real low idle and plan on changing the plug wires sometime. With motor off and switch on it works flawlessly so interference may be there. All in all a good fix for me.

Bill
 

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I don't know what or who UD is but my 8N is a working tractor. I used it for ll my snow plowing on a 300' drive. Use it for my firewood in the woods and more. I read a lot of the opinions pro and con on this on TBN after i did mine.
I'm sure there are those that would say I ruined it and by adding a front hydraulic pump and system I have converted an original Dearborn front plow to power angle too.
There is a spare EPS in the garage but so far I haven't needed it.
I did read about copper core spark plug wires interfering with the unit and notice some hesitation at real low idle and plan on changing the plug wires sometime. With motor off and switch on it works flawlessly so interference may be there. All in all a good fix for me.

Bill
My attemt at an inside joke Bill.

UD = Ultradog @ YT.

A few years ago we had a long rancorous "discussion" of EPS on an N-series and I figured you had at least seen the thread. He was and still is adamant it will overload and kill the steering gear box. I tried to explain the flaw in his logic and as our debates often do it got pretty heated 😇

Dan
 
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My attemt at an inside joke Bill.

UD = Ultradog @ YT.

A few years ago we had a long rancorous "discussion" of EPS on an N-series and I figured you had at least seen the thread. He was and still is adamant it will overload and kill the steering gear box. I tried to explain the flaw in his logic and as our debates often do it got pretty heated 😇

Dan
Now that you mention it it may have been YT. I remember reading some there who were vary opinionated.
Thanks Dan for rattling the brain cells for me.

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Ok. Your good at huffin and puffin blowin everyones house down. I guess you know all about these too and it flat out wont work because nobody has done it.
Forget i asked. Thx
WOW, Sorry you become offended with someone's knowledge of systems.
If you were as smart as you think you are you would have asked how I know... Well I've worked on quite a few hydraulic steering systems for boats and know the abilities and limitations of those systems.

There are rules to mechanical and hydraulic systems that can not just be disregarded or rewritten just because you want it to work.

But hey, prove me wrong, spend all the money and time to fab it all up.
Then have the guts to come back on here and tell me I was right, and it doesn't work the way you thought it would.

Oh and about Houses, Yea I know all about those too!
 
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WOW, Sorry you become offended with someone's knowledge of systems.
If you were as smart as you think you are you would have asked how I know... Well I've worked on quite a few hydraulic steering systems for boats and know the abilities and limitations of those systems.

There are rules to mechanical and hydraulic systems that can not just be disregarded or rewritten just because you want it to work.

But hey, prove me wrong, spend all the money and time to fab it all up.
Then have the guts to come back on here and tell me I was right, and it doesn't work the way you thought it would.

Oh and about Houses, Yea I know all about those too!
Not offended just annoyed by the automatic statement of it's not going to work with no explanation as to why or what exactly isn't going to work. I thought this was a discussion forum. And for the record I don't think I'm very smart. Don't have time to argue with you. And in the end you may be right. Or I'll just say it now and get it out of the way. You are right.

I see a few potentially attractive benefits to this system.

I found another 1 year old discussion about this very topic. See below link and read as it has more details on how these pumps work.

Here are the reasons why I think it could work with trade offs. Also mentioned very well in different forum link below.

1. For the B7200 specifically because that is what I drive, the first benefit would be to eliminate all the steering wheel jerking around from hitting bumps, stumps and what not on rough terrain. Just used bush hog with loader for the first time on last night for a good two hours. Wrist was sore from all the jerking around the steering wheel does from loader weight and bumps. I do use both hands to alleviate that issue but doesn't happen all the time. This hydraulic unit keeps any back lash or would prevent a lot of this phenomena from happening from what I understand.

2. I measured lock to lock on my Kubota last night. It has about 1.75 turns lock to lock.
These Helm pumps come in anywhere from 3-5 turns lock to lock. So while there is a trade off here, and I would look for no more than 3-4 turns lock to lock, I would be utitilizing/benefiting from the hydraulic pressure I do get from turning the wheel making it a little easier to turn. I looked up the standard average Lock to lock wheel rotations on a tractor and it came in at anywhere from 2-5 rotations. I'm thinking I wouldn't want more that 3-4 turns.

2. Cost. Maybe at one time this was a cost prohibitive item so nobody even considered trying it. With china stuff out here now like Vevor is it really that cost prohibitive? Or getting used on marketplace? I know american stuff like Sea Star is high $$$$$ I see people dropping 2-3K on disks and rototillers. What is expensive nowadays? How much is upgrading the steering worth? I think that is up to the individual paying for it.

3. I took a closer look at the steering set up on my tractor last night. I have a spare B7200 tractor for parts I just got. I could mock this up on there fairly easy I think... I've got a good idea how I'd try to do it. Going to the boat marina tonight to try out these Hydraulic helm pump steering units. I want to know and feel first hand how they work and see if I'm waisting my time or not. I know the owner and he said he wanted to show me a new Electric steering system they are using now that works great. I'm sure it's high dollar though. I'll find out.

I highly doubt anyone has tried this on a b7200 specifically or even a B7100. Would love to hear results if you have.

Would I try this on a bigger heavier tractor? No.
Am I going to try this anytime soon? No. To busy trying to finish my FEL up. Maybe after that.
Do I need power steering on a b7200? No.

I understand now after doing some research this does not work like an external hydraulic pump or an electric pump but it is a unique type of hydraulic pump. Could be a big improvement on the B7200 steering experience for not a lot of money. Or not. Looks fairly easy but I have not done it. Nothing is as easy as it sounds usually.

I've seen the arguments for electric pumps and external hydraulic pumps. Not interested in those options at the moment.

Check the link out below if you have time. Brings up some good points about a helm pump and probably bad too. Either way interesting read. I'm not the only dummy that thinks this could work.


Power Steering Add on options | Garden Tractor Forums
 

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The 1.75 turns is very little, so the forces on the wheel may be smaller with the hydraulic system. Is there any way you can increase the gear ratio on your steering?

Also keep in mind that it is made for boats. Turning a rudder or an outboard engine requires considerably lower forces than turning the tractor wheels. Not sure if this system is suitable for a tractor.

And any bumps are fed back into the steering wheel, just reduced by the hydraulic transfer ratio.
 

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Not offended just annoyed by the automatic statement of it's not going to work with no explanation as to why or what exactly isn't going to work. I thought this was a discussion forum. And for the record I don't think I'm very smart. Don't have time to argue with you. And in the end you may be right. Or I'll just say it now and get it out of the way. You are right.

I see a few potentially attractive benefits to this system.

I found another 1 year old discussion about this very topic. See below link and read as it has more details on how these pumps work.

Here are the reasons why I think it could work with trade offs. Also mentioned very well in different forum link below.

1. For the B7200 specifically because that is what I drive, the first benefit would be to eliminate all the steering wheel jerking around from hitting bumps, stumps and what not on rough terrain. Just used bush hog with loader for the first time on last night for a good two hours. Wrist was sore from all the jerking around the steering wheel does from loader weight and bumps. I do use both hands to alleviate that issue but doesn't happen all the time. This hydraulic unit keeps any back lash or would prevent a lot of this phenomena from happening from what I understand.

2. I measured lock to lock on my Kubota last night. It has about 1.75 turns lock to lock.
These Helm pumps come in anywhere from 3-5 turns lock to lock. So while there is a trade off here, and I would look for no more than 3-4 turns lock to lock, I would be utitilizing/benefiting from the hydraulic pressure I do get from turning the wheel making it a little easier to turn. I looked up the standard average Lock to lock wheel rotations on a tractor and it came in at anywhere from 2-5 rotations. I'm thinking I wouldn't want more that 3-4 turns.

2. Cost. Maybe at one time this was a cost prohibitive item so nobody even considered trying it. With china stuff out here now like Vevor is it really that cost prohibitive? Or getting used on marketplace? I know american stuff like Sea Star is high $$$$$ I see people dropping 2-3K on disks and rototillers. What is expensive nowadays? How much is upgrading the steering worth? I think that is up to the individual paying for it.

3. I took a closer look at the steering set up on my tractor last night. I have a spare B7200 tractor for parts I just got. I could mock this up on there fairly easy I think... I've got a good idea how I'd try to do it. Going to the boat marina tonight to try out these Hydraulic helm pump steering units. I want to know and feel first hand how they work and see if I'm waisting my time or not. I know the owner and he said he wanted to show me a new Electric steering system they are using now that works great. I'm sure it's high dollar though. I'll find out.

I highly doubt anyone has tried this on a b7200 specifically or even a B7100. Would love to hear results if you have.

Would I try this on a bigger heavier tractor? No.
Am I going to try this anytime soon? No. To busy trying to finish my FEL up. Maybe after that.
Do I need power steering on a b7200? No.

I understand now after doing some research this does not work like an external hydraulic pump or an electric pump but it is a unique type of hydraulic pump. Could be a big improvement on the B7200 steering experience for not a lot of money. Or not. Looks fairly easy but I have not done it. Nothing is as easy as it sounds usually.

I've seen the arguments for electric pumps and external hydraulic pumps. Not interested in those options at the moment.

Check the link out below if you have time. Brings up some good points about a helm pump and probably bad too. Either way interesting read. I'm not the only dummy that thinks this could work.


Power Steering Add on options | Garden Tractor Forums
There are good and bad ways of doing things. Given the alternatives availabke this is a horrible one.

Dan