Do tractors come with brake lights for highway travel?
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My MX5200 has red tail lights, yellow flashers/blinkers. The tail lights are only used as red markers. They do not light up when I hit the breaks, which I don't like.
Dave,
I just bought a new 2016 M7060HDC12 last September and it apparently doesn't have brake lights that light up when the pedal is pressed. Do I need to set a switch or something in order to get them to function?
Oh, it looks like DocHolladay just answered my question!
I just bought a new 2016 M7060HDC12 last September and it apparently doesn't have brake lights that light up when the pedal is pressed. Do I need to set a switch or something in order to get them to function?
Oh, it looks like DocHolladay just answered my question!
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I admit to being puzzled by these posts after mine. My tractor has a 7 pin external trailer connector so will even control electric trailer brakes. (or so I thought)
I will do a bit of digging. Hope I did not mislead everyone.
I dont see any switch being used.
I will return!
Dave M7040
I will do a bit of digging. Hope I did not mislead everyone.
I dont see any switch being used.
I will return!
Dave M7040
Here is the trailer socket showing a brake light terminal.
Wiring diagram showing two brake lights
Brake light switch wiring inside cabin
Dave M7040
Wiring diagram showing two brake lights
Brake light switch wiring inside cabin
Dave M7040
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Thank you Dave.
But... why don't they work on the tractor? Tomorrow I'll check the fuses and bulbs to see if they are not working - maybe the dealer put in the wrong bulbs.
But... why don't they work on the tractor? Tomorrow I'll check the fuses and bulbs to see if they are not working - maybe the dealer put in the wrong bulbs.
First I had to make certain I had the feature I was telling you was there.Thank you Dave.
But... why don't they work on the tractor? Tomorrow I'll check the fuses and bulbs to see if they are not working - maybe the dealer put in the wrong bulbs.
On your machine, is a cabin model?
Does it have the 7 pin trailer connector?
I have not done this yet on mine because it is dark and very cold but I will tomorrow, is there any sort of switch or wires when you look up around the brake pedals.
Road travel is always supposed to happen with the brake tie bar locking the two pedals together. When you test your brake lights are the two pedals locked together?
Post back and I will reply tomorrow after I can look at my brake pedal area.
Dave M7040
Dave,
On your machine, is it a cabin model?
Yes, it's a M7060HDC12.
Does it have the 7 pin trailer connector?
Yes.
Road travel is always supposed to happen with the brake tie bar locking the two pedals together. When you test your brake lights are the two pedals locked together?
When I tested it, the two brake pedals were locked together.
On your machine, is it a cabin model?
Yes, it's a M7060HDC12.
Does it have the 7 pin trailer connector?
Yes.
Road travel is always supposed to happen with the brake tie bar locking the two pedals together. When you test your brake lights are the two pedals locked together?
When I tested it, the two brake pedals were locked together.
Do you have a simple 12 volt test light like this one?
If you don't, it is a cheap and invaluable tool at a time like this.
On amazon.com and most automotive parts stores.
Dont buy the cheapest one you can find because then you are always wondering is my test light still working and can I trust the information it is providing me.
If you did have one the first test you would do is to connect the alligator clip to terminal 1 on the trailer connector and the end of the probe on terminal 4 and have someone step on the brakes.
If the test probe works you immediately know the wiring from the to and from the brake pedal is ok and can focus on other possible problems.
Dave M7040
If you don't, it is a cheap and invaluable tool at a time like this.
On amazon.com and most automotive parts stores.
Dont buy the cheapest one you can find because then you are always wondering is my test light still working and can I trust the information it is providing me.
If you did have one the first test you would do is to connect the alligator clip to terminal 1 on the trailer connector and the end of the probe on terminal 4 and have someone step on the brakes.
If the test probe works you immediately know the wiring from the to and from the brake pedal is ok and can focus on other possible problems.
Dave M7040
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Dave,
Yes, I have a voltage tester. I'll check tomorrow to see if I have power on the trailer pin.
Of course this may not be a big deal, but somewhere I read that tractors must have brake lights if used on a public road. I'll double check to see if this is indeed true.
Thank you for taking your time to check all of this out!
Yes, I have a voltage tester. I'll check tomorrow to see if I have power on the trailer pin.
Of course this may not be a big deal, but somewhere I read that tractors must have brake lights if used on a public road. I'll double check to see if this is indeed true.
Thank you for taking your time to check all of this out!
It is likely just something simple as it makes no sense to have a trailer connector and no tractor lights. Of course you could always tow a trailer with working light plugged into the trailer connector
A related comment. Nothing shortens the appearance of a tractor faster than being driven on salted roads in the winter.
Dave M7040
A related comment. Nothing shortens the appearance of a tractor faster than being driven on salted roads in the winter.
Dave M7040
Exactly! Perhaps the brake lights only have a single filament bulb which I'll check out tomorrow.
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On the schematic while it does show stop light bulbs, but you will note there is no wires going to the lamps feeding them or wiring to the plug (noted in yellow).
My understanding is they only install and hook up the tractor brake light and trailer feed on the EU units.
Now if you wanted brake lights on it, You would have to install the switch (as most models won't even have the switch installed, wire to and from the switch to the light and to the plug if you want trailer lights.
On the schematic while it does show stop light bulbs, but you will note there is no wires going to the lamps feeding them or wiring to the plug (noted in yellow).
My understanding is they only install and hook up the tractor brake light and trailer feed on the EU units.
Now if you wanted brake lights on it, You would have to install the switch (as most models won't even have the switch installed, wire to and from the switch to the light and to the plug if you want trailer lights.
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I think the option for stop lights is for tractors sold in mainly European & other countries that the tractors are routinely driven on public roads
I ran in to this when I bought my new to me 2007 L3940 a few years ago. I have an older 1992 M-F made in Poland which has brake lights. I was going over the L3940 to get familiar with it and noticed the tail light bulbs were two filament but did not light up when I pressed the brake pedal. I thought a switch was bad. I even put a post out here at that time. I called my dealer and he was scratching his head. So I emailed Kubota and got a response from them. As it turns out, the Kubota tractors destined for North America are not equipped with brake lights but tractors destined for other parts of the world are (go figure that one out!). So to make assembly faster and less confusing, all the tractors are equipped with two filament bulbs regardless of their destination. My mystery was solved.
I am just back from my tractor have to admit Wolfman is correct and indeed I do NOT have brake lights.
Another thing I noticed in my owners' manual is that the bulb spec chart only shows a single filament bulb for the tail light.
I cannot bend to look under the dash so stuck my camera and snapped some shots without being able to aim.
I see what may be a switch up high but the photo is not good enough to tell so I will try again.
I should not have been so confident based upon my memory first and then material in the WSM. I should have physically checked but it was late and miserable outside when the subject came up on the forum. . I wasted people's time but again I learned and probably others reading the thread did thanks to Wolfman
Dave M7040
Another thing I noticed in my owners' manual is that the bulb spec chart only shows a single filament bulb for the tail light.
I cannot bend to look under the dash so stuck my camera and snapped some shots without being able to aim.
I see what may be a switch up high but the photo is not good enough to tell so I will try again.
I should not have been so confident based upon my memory first and then material in the WSM. I should have physically checked but it was late and miserable outside when the subject came up on the forum. . I wasted people's time but again I learned and probably others reading the thread did thanks to Wolfman
Dave M7040
I don't think you need brake lights if it qualifies as a slow-moving vehicle (I think that means not capable of 25mph) and a SMV sign is displayed.
Don't rely completely on that test light. It will provide a ground and show a working connection when that may not be the case. 12VDC will drive you crazy when you lose the ground to something.