In my area 20 plus years ago, Farmi was the only game in town, so that's what I bought. It's been good, no complaints.
Wallenstein FX110
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Your note about kinking rope if not careful…how you would go about rigging to use for a purpose other than a log, such pull another vehicle or itself for that matter?
due to the ferrule set-up kinda not possible w/o kinking the rope. You need to make a loop big enough. Can't pull against the crimp as it won't hold.
So if it was ME I would loop a 18" long rnd piece of firewood. Imagine a rnd piece of wood 18" long in this loop.
then use 1 of the 2 keyhole sliders that your winch comes with to utilize one of the choke chains also included (or even a regular chain). The key hole sliders simply butt up against the looped rnd and Bobs your Uncle. Extra chain could be a slip hook or a grab hook or an shackle to a strap or whatever. Just utilizing keyhole sliders.
or a pulley block making a dble line pull to an immovable anchor like a big tree lowdown.
About those "extra uses". I had a Uniforest winch for several years for tree clearing (good trouble-free unit, by the way), and found it pulled much faster than a recovery type winch, even with the tractor at idle. Unless it was slowed a down a bunch through pulley blocks, I never felt it would be safe trying to pull a vehicle, for example, where "easy does it" usually works better than "let 'er rip". YMMV of course, and I hope the new winch works great for you.
Just an update (reflection) now that I have finished final install and some light use.
Let’s get the CONs out the way:
0. PTO shaft (which has been replaced as a part number from manufacturer doesn’t match the manual). This is a small gripe but I would have preferred a push pin or slip ring (as indicated in the manual - manual just not updated with the current part number)on each end for ease of service. The implement end has two bolts which when installed hold the pto shaft onto the implement…I was not familiar with this type, and seems like no functional issue, but I would have liked to be able to push a button to remove for service
1. Implement doesn’t leave much room for a full figured Grumpy farmer to attach pto, safety chains, and slide the feet (for standing implement) up/down when removed from machine. For the feet pins, I have to stick my head in past the link arms to be able to see the pin holes on the foot arms. It’s doable, but I am just complaining…it’s more a testament that I have not done yoga in a while than anything wrong with the implement.
2. I used the Cat 2 Pin locations, and that holds the implement a few inches lower to the ground, reducing departure angle…the blade does a fair job grading. I think on occasions when I need to access that same location I may use the cat 1 pin locations. The NEW hydraulic top link combined with the height of the top link pin location on the implement limits how high I can lift the implement (cross bar across back of tractor prevents lifting 3 pt to full height with this implement on as it has a very hi top link relative to most attachments…the implement is not would not QH compatible.
3. The ferrule end of the cable falls out of the chain slot while driving. I ended up putting a piece of a stick in the hole as a poor man’s shim to keep it from falling out. (Not really a Problem just living up to my name
PROs
0. it’s the right color!
1. Came with all the pins / bushings for all possible combinations on the implement. I did not have to buy anything…all complete. I did do some minor assembly but that was by my choice and request based on how I wanted to haul the implement home. All the ASSY was straight foward and matched the manual.
2. Online parts and manuals and videos much easier to navigate, read and understand than some other makes IMO.
3. Implement functions as advertised in promotional videos.
4. Features:
Chain buckets on each side - great location and very helpful to hold your pins and chains. Slotted to let dirt/debris out but not your pins.
Brackets on each side: helpful to hold hook of chain as well as slide an axe or other longish handheld logging tool in.
slots to hold the chains when skidding.
Trailer hitch: Has an integrated trailer hitch which allows me to bring my wagon/trailer…this is really helpful for me.
2 choker chains…I had not used this type before and they were a real game changer…very nice. I should have bought some of these sooner…it came with 2
5. General design. Seems like they put some thought into it from nice paint, good looking welds, good fit and finish of parts where they fit together, ease of assembly, some extra features and add ons available and care taken putting the labels on even. It seems very stout/heavy duty (weighs more than some other makes and has much less cable on it than others) and it is certainly made to be used with either a cat 1 or cat 2 tractor. Personally I think it would be better suited on a larger machine than a smaller machine…I think it would be a handful for my B and probably not a bright idea for me to even try it on it.
6. Add ons:
Scabbard - for what it is that think it was expensive, but it properly fits the implement and it’s very functional. I would add that on again if I were doing something over.
self releasing snatch block - not used yet but I suspect I will be happy with it.
7. It’s actually heavy enough to provide decent ballast (I also have loaded tires and wheel weights) for using the grapple while in the woods. The height of the implement does limit some visibility if backing up.
8. Ferrule end on cable…it’s extremely functional and I like it/ prefer it in use. However if that ferrule comes off I will most likely break a forum etiquette on vocabulary….i would not have a way to put that ferrule back on without some help and new tools…probably have to take the whole cable off and take somewhere for service or buy another one. While it works I suspect I will remain very happy with it.
9. Service locations (grease/- not aweful, less than ideal but it’s not a complaint.
In general I am very happy with it. The one thing I would mention is if getting one, have a plan how you will move / attach it for first time as it’s not really moveable for an individual as it sets on the floor. Likewise with attaching, at least mine leaves me with the impression it would tip over fairly easily if not careful…it’s heavy and awkward if it would tip IMO.
I kept the pallet and stabilizers from shipping and modified the pallet slightly and then added some dolly’s which makes moving on the shop floor smooth and it t also makes hook up easier as you can roll it into the 3 pt arms. (See pics below)
the height of the top link combined with a recent hydraulic top link is a bit of a pain…I am still learning here, but that has been a bit frustrating. Top link works great once pinned and it’s worthwhile - game changer, but it could use some controls at the back of machine for when looking up. It this implement was compatible with a QH that would help. But I believe the configuration and use of the top link most likely dictate where the top link needs to be on this implement. It works fine but maybe something to be aware of or consider.
I was a little bit wrapped around the axle on the cable length (it’s short than other makes) but I don’t think it was worth my festering. So far so good.
paired with a grapple, and some go go juice you can get a bit of work done pretty quickly with this thing
I am still on the honeymoon with this implement, but after first use and impression, I am sure glad I got this for my wife for Christmas. I would choose this implement all over again for myself or my spousal unit.
Let’s get the CONs out the way:
0. PTO shaft (which has been replaced as a part number from manufacturer doesn’t match the manual). This is a small gripe but I would have preferred a push pin or slip ring (as indicated in the manual - manual just not updated with the current part number)on each end for ease of service. The implement end has two bolts which when installed hold the pto shaft onto the implement…I was not familiar with this type, and seems like no functional issue, but I would have liked to be able to push a button to remove for service
1. Implement doesn’t leave much room for a full figured Grumpy farmer to attach pto, safety chains, and slide the feet (for standing implement) up/down when removed from machine. For the feet pins, I have to stick my head in past the link arms to be able to see the pin holes on the foot arms. It’s doable, but I am just complaining…it’s more a testament that I have not done yoga in a while than anything wrong with the implement.
2. I used the Cat 2 Pin locations, and that holds the implement a few inches lower to the ground, reducing departure angle…the blade does a fair job grading
. I think on occasions when I need to access that same location I may use the cat 1 pin locations. The NEW hydraulic top link combined with the height of the top link pin location on the implement limits how high I can lift the implement (cross bar across back of tractor prevents lifting 3 pt to full height with this implement on as it has a very hi top link relative to most attachments…the implement is not would not QH compatible.3. The ferrule end of the cable falls out of the chain slot while driving. I ended up putting a piece of a stick in the hole as a poor man’s shim to keep it from falling out. (Not really a Problem just living up to my name
PROs
0. it’s the right color!
1. Came with all the pins / bushings for all possible combinations on the implement. I did not have to buy anything…all complete. I did do some minor assembly but that was by my choice and request based on how I wanted to haul the implement home. All the ASSY was straight foward and matched the manual.
2. Online parts and manuals and videos much easier to navigate, read and understand than some other makes IMO.
3. Implement functions as advertised in promotional videos.
4. Features:
Chain buckets on each side - great location and very helpful to hold your pins and chains. Slotted to let dirt/debris out but not your pins.
Brackets on each side: helpful to hold hook of chain as well as slide an axe or other longish handheld logging tool in.
slots to hold the chains when skidding.
Trailer hitch: Has an integrated trailer hitch which allows me to bring my wagon/trailer…this is really helpful for me.
2 choker chains…I had not used this type before and they were a real game changer…very nice. I should have bought some of these sooner…it came with 2
5. General design. Seems like they put some thought into it from nice paint, good looking welds, good fit and finish of parts where they fit together, ease of assembly, some extra features and add ons available and care taken putting the labels on even. It seems very stout/heavy duty (weighs more than some other makes and has much less cable on it than others) and it is certainly made to be used with either a cat 1 or cat 2 tractor. Personally I think it would be better suited on a larger machine than a smaller machine…I think it would be a handful for my B and probably not a bright idea for me to even try it on it.
6. Add ons:
Scabbard - for what it is that think it was expensive, but it properly fits the implement and it’s very functional. I would add that on again if I were doing something over.
self releasing snatch block - not used yet but I suspect I will be happy with it.
7. It’s actually heavy enough to provide decent ballast (I also have loaded tires and wheel weights) for using the grapple while in the woods. The height of the implement does limit some visibility if backing up.
8. Ferrule end on cable…it’s extremely functional and I like it/ prefer it in use. However if that ferrule comes off I will most likely break a forum etiquette on vocabulary….i would not have a way to put that ferrule back on without some help and new tools…probably have to take the whole cable off and take somewhere for service or buy another one. While it works I suspect I will remain very happy with it.
9. Service locations (grease/- not aweful, less than ideal but it’s not a complaint.
In general I am very happy with it. The one thing I would mention is if getting one, have a plan how you will move / attach it for first time as it’s not really moveable for an individual as it sets on the floor. Likewise with attaching, at least mine leaves me with the impression it would tip over fairly easily if not careful…it’s heavy and awkward if it would tip IMO.
I kept the pallet and stabilizers from shipping and modified the pallet slightly and then added some dolly’s which makes moving on the shop floor smooth and it t also makes hook up easier as you can roll it into the 3 pt arms. (See pics below)
the height of the top link combined with a recent hydraulic top link is a bit of a pain…I am still learning here, but that has been a bit frustrating. Top link works great once pinned and it’s worthwhile - game changer, but it could use some controls at the back of machine for when looking up. It this implement was compatible with a QH that would help. But I believe the configuration and use of the top link most likely dictate where the top link needs to be on this implement. It works fine but maybe something to be aware of or consider.
I was a little bit wrapped around the axle on the cable length (it’s short than other makes) but I don’t think it was worth my festering. So far so good.
paired with a grapple, and some go go juice you can get a bit of work done pretty quickly with this thing
I am still on the honeymoon with this implement, but after first use and impression, I am sure glad I got this for my wife for Christmas
. I would choose this implement all over again for myself or my spousal unit.
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NCL4701
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L4701, T2290, WC68, grapple, BB1572, Farmi W50R, Howes 500, 16kW IMD gen, WG24
Glad you like it and aren’t grappling with buyer’s remorse.
Very good write up and on point with my experience with similar size Farmi. I’ve been a bit surprised how stable mine is when sitting upright on its storage dolly. It looks like an accident waiting to happen but is actually quite stable.
Very good write up and on point with my experience with similar size Farmi. I’ve been a bit surprised how stable mine is when sitting upright on its storage dolly. It looks like an accident waiting to happen but is actually quite stable.
To be fair, I cheated a little on the purchase… I got some helpful suggestion and advice from a few of the very knowledgable members / SMEs on the forum
Thank you.
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Yeah, great write up. You have to admire Canadian engineering and manufacturing. They're the Swiss or Germans of the North and South American continents. I would love to have such a well made piece of equipment, but at this point I have no need for one so will have to live vicariously through your experiences. Very cool.Just an update (reflection) now that I have finished final install and some light use.
Let’s get the CONs out the way:
0. PTO shaft (which has been replaced as a part number from manufacturer doesn’t match the manual). This is a small gripe but I would have preferred a push pin or slip ring (as indicated in the manual - manual just not updated with the current part number)on each end for ease of service. The implement end has two bolts which when installed hold the pto shaft onto the implement…I was not familiar with this type, and seems like no functional issue, but I would have liked to be able to push a button to remove for service
1. Implement doesn’t leave much room for a full figured Grumpy farmer to attach pto, safety chains, and slide the feet (for standing implement) up/down when removed from machine. For the feet pins, I have to stick my head in past the link arms to be able to see the pin holes on the foot arms. It’s doable, but I am just complaining…it’s more a testament that I have not done yoga in a while than anything wrong with the implement.
2. I used the Cat 2 Pin locations, and that holds the implement a few inches lower to the ground, reducing departure angle…the blade does a fair job grading
3. The ferrule end of the cable falls out of the chain slot while driving. I ended up putting a piece of a stick in the hole as a poor man’s shim to keep it from falling out. (Not really a Problem just living up to my name
PROs
0. it’s the right color!
1. Came with all the pins / bushings for all possible combinations on the implement. I did not have to buy anything…all complete. I did do some minor assembly but that was by my choice and request based on how I wanted to haul the implement home. All the ASSY was straight foward and matched the manual.
2. Online parts and manuals and videos much easier to navigate, read and understand than some other makes IMO.
3. Implement functions as advertised in promotional videos.
4. Features:
Chain buckets on each side - great location and very helpful to hold your pins and chains. Slotted to let dirt/debris out but not your pins.
Brackets on each side: helpful to hold hook of chain as well as slide an axe or other longish handheld logging tool in.
slots to hold the chains when skidding.
Trailer hitch: Has an integrated trailer hitch which allows me to bring my wagon/trailer…this is really helpful for me.
2 choker chains…I had not used this type before and they were a real game changer…very nice. I should have bought some of these sooner…it came with 2
5. General design. Seems like they put some thought into it from nice paint, good looking welds, good fit and finish of parts where they fit together, ease of assembly, some extra features and add ons available and care taken putting the labels on even. It seems very stout/heavy duty (weighs more than some other makes and has much less cable on it than others) and it is certainly made to be used with either a cat 1 or cat 2 tractor. Personally I think it would be better suited on a larger machine than a smaller machine…I think it would be a handful for my B and probably not a bright idea for me to even try it on it.
6. Add ons:
Scabbard - for what it is that think it was expensive, but it properly fits the implement and it’s very functional. I would add that on again if I were doing something over.
self releasing snatch block - not used yet but I suspect I will be happy with it.
7. It’s actually heavy enough to provide decent ballast (I also have loaded tires and wheel weights) for using the grapple while in the woods. The height of the implement does limit some visibility if backing up.
8. Ferrule end on cable…it’s extremely functional and I like it/ prefer it in use. However if that ferrule comes off I will most likely break a forum etiquette on vocabulary….i would not have a way to put that ferrule back on without some help and new tools…probably have to take the whole cable off and take somewhere for service or buy another one. While it works I suspect I will remain very happy with it.
9. Service locations (grease/- not aweful, less than ideal but it’s not a complaint.
In general I am very happy with it. The one thing I would mention is if getting one, have a plan how you will move / attach it for first time as it’s not really moveable for an individual as it sets on the floor. Likewise with attaching, at least mine leaves me with the impression it would tip over fairly easily if not careful…it’s heavy and awkward if it would tip IMO.
I kept the pallet and stabilizers from shipping and modified the pallet slightly and then added some dolly’s which makes moving on the shop floor smooth and it t also makes hook up easier as you can roll it into the 3 pt arms. (See pics below)
the height of the top link combined with a recent hydraulic top link is a bit of a pain…I am still learning here, but that has been a bit frustrating. Top link works great once pinned and it’s worthwhile - game changer, but it could use some controls at the back of machine for when looking up. It this implement was compatible with a QH that would help. But I believe the configuration and use of the top link most likely dictate where the top link needs to be on this implement. It works fine but maybe something to be aware of or consider.
I was a little bit wrapped around the axle on the cable length (it’s short than other makes) but I don’t think it was worth my festering. So far so good.
paired with a grapple, and some go go juice you can get a bit of work done pretty quickly with this thing
I am still on the honeymoon with this implement, but after first use and impression, I am sure glad I got this for my wife for Christmas
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I'm still interested in two pieces of Canadian quality that I could use. A Berkelmans Welding dump trailer and a Balfor Samurai 700C.
Wait, am I off my meds again or getting my wires crossed?Yeah, great write up. You have to admire Canadian engineering and manufacturing. They're the Swiss or Germans of the North and South American continents. I would love to have such a well made piece of equipment, but at this point I have no need for one so will have to live vicariously through your experiences. Very cool.
I'm still interested in two pieces of Canadian quality that I could use. A Berkelmans Welding dump trailer and a Balfor Samurai 700C.
I might be confusing it with the WoodMax Canadian made chippers. Is that Wallenstein made in Canada?
NCL4701
Well-known member
Equipment
L4701, T2290, WC68, grapple, BB1572, Farmi W50R, Howes 500, 16kW IMD gen, WG24
Wallenstein is Canada.Wait, am I off my meds again or getting my wires crossed?
Farmi is Finland.
Hud-son / Uniforest is U.S. (Barnvelde, New York)
Well, that’s a first (someone living through my small purchases).Yeah, great write up. You have to admire Canadian engineering and manufacturing. They're the Swiss or Germans of the North and South American continents. I would love to have such a well made piece of equipment, but at this point I have no need for one so will have to live vicariously through your experiences. Very cool.
I'm still interested in two pieces of Canadian quality that I could use. A Berkelmans Welding dump trailer and a Balfor Samurai 700C.
I am not familiar with the Balfour. But the Berkelmans trailer, I am. I would love one. They look pretty solid, well thought out and well put together. I honestly do t think I could break one without some help. Thats not in the budget anytime soon... not even sure how I could reasonably get one where I am at. At some point I will end up getting a dump trailer though. I just put a cylinder on my wagon and wish I would have done it sooner…now I’d really like a road worthy dump trailer.
Maybe, but I honestly don’t know what meds you are on or off today, but I took the previous comment as a compliment whether you are on meds or not.Wait, am I off my meds again or getting my wires crossed?
Wallenstein is in Canada (I believe Amish or Mennonite - ish). My dealer is as well and they seem to have some tight connection / relationship. I believe they make pretty decent stuff.
I sort of think Uniforest comes from over seas (Europe / Slovenia? region I believe)
I'm not on any meds and was joking about that, but the vicarious part was serious. I enjoy seeing what others are doing, how they're using implements, what tractors they have, what jobs they're getting done. I like it all from a BX up to an M8 and everything in between.Maybe, but I honestly don’t know what meds you are on or off today, but I took the previous comment as a compliment whether you are on meds or not.
Wallenstein is in Canada (I believe Amish or Mennonite - ish). My dealer is as well and they seem to have some tight connection / relationship. I believe they make pretty decent stuff.
I don't have a hay field but I really enjoy watching YouTube videos featuring the whole process. It has to be one of the most satisfying tractor jobs out there. I helped a coworker with some baling a month or so ago, but I'd be in seventh heaving using a tractor to cut, ted, rake and bale hay. Maybe one day.
So keep up the good work and know that you're educating many here who might never get to run a logging winch let alone own one. Good stuff for sure.
All in good fun…I was being a wise acre about the meds myself.
thank you for the kind words.
now let’s get serious…we are no where near even…not even close. I am not really sure how I am going to top your boat and the NEW truck, much less the military truck…my God, that truck and boat combo or truck and tractor on the trailer going down that road effortlessly, now that’s what I’m dreaming of.
baling is fun until it’s about 85 and you are doing the stacking on the trailer, and it gets worse from there when up in the top of the mound IMO. Driving the tractor, thats the dream job. Up in the mound, best case is if you don’t have allergies.
thank you for the kind words.
now let’s get serious…we are no where near even…not even close. I am not really sure how I am going to top your boat and the NEW truck, much less the military truck…my God, that truck and boat combo or truck and tractor on the trailer going down that road effortlessly, now that’s what I’m dreaming of.
baling is fun until it’s about 85 and you are doing the stacking on the trailer, and it gets worse from there when up in the top of the mound IMO. Driving the tractor, thats the dream job. Up in the mound, best case is if you don’t have allergies.
NCL4701
Well-known member
Equipment
L4701, T2290, WC68, grapple, BB1572, Farmi W50R, Howes 500, 16kW IMD gen, WG24
Getting off topic, but picking up square hay bales growing up, tractor driver was almost always a kid too small to stack bales, a woman, or a man too old to stack bales. Of course my first job was driving and I wasn’t exactly giddy about being “promoted” to throwing/stacking.
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With bale accumulators, stacking bales is no longer necessary. And, yes, I grew up on a farm and stacked bales at the neighbors' dairy farm. Believe it or not, I enjoyed it! Now I wonder what was wrong with me.
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