Vevor Products

[McMXi]

What kind of jumbled logic and deflection is that?

When I pump clean fuel into a possibly contaminated transfer tank I want it filtered on the way out. Thats not smoke, not fluff, just common sense.

Dan

How the heck do you contaminate your transfer tank? When you fill up your BMW at the gas station, do you contaminate the fuel tank? When you pump diesel into your pickup at the fuel station, do you contaminate the fuel tank? That's the logic and no deflection. Filling up your vehicle's fuel tank is no different to filling up a transfer tank, and people have no thought of running fuel from the pump through another filter before pumping it into the fuel tank and driving away.

You think I should take more precautions with a $60k tractor than I do with a $100k truck. Ridiculous sheep thinking here.

 

[TheOldHokie]

How the heck do you contaminate your transfer tank? When you fill up your BMW at the gas station, do you contaminate the fuel tank? When you pump diesel into your pickup at the fuel station, do you contaminate the fuel tank? That's the logic and no deflection. Filling up your vehicle's fuel tank is no different to filling up a transfer tank, and people have no thought of running fuel from the pump through another filter before pumping it into the fuel tank and driving away.

You think I should take more precautions with a $60k tractor than I do with a $100k truck. Ridiculous sheep thinking here.

Go for it - I will just continue to think like a sheep - Baah

Dan

 

[Shawn T. W]

My take on the filter on a storage tank is that in general it will sit longer than the fuel in a road vehicle ... So the possibility of condensation is greater, especially if it's a bio-diesel blend ... Which I don't use.

I currently use 20 liter gerry cans, rotate five of them, they sit in my insulated but no HVAC garage, I have just dumped them into my tractors, no problems in four year ...

However I'm in the process of building a fuel station out of a 55 gallon plastic barrel, and had bought the goldenrod filter system ... Just seemed like a good idea ... Getting tired of hoisting the cans up for the Kubota fuel fill on the hood, Massey is on the fender ...

When I lived in Vermont, I had an oil fired furnace and also oil fired boiler, the 275 gallon tank in the basement had a filter on the bottom where it then fed to the oil burner ... Not sure if it was also a water separator or not ...

 

[McMXi]

There was a member on here recently trying to figure out how to get a leaf out the fuel tank on his BX. That leaf didn't come from the fuel container that he was using to fuel his tractor. It came from inattentive or careless fueling practices and I bet that the vast majority of fuel tank contamination occurs this way.

If you can't fill a transfer tank or fill up your car/truck without contaminating the tank when you're at a relatively clean fueling station then VEVOR is for you since you clearly need some form of additional filtration between the fuel and your tractor's fuel tank. If you're not up to the task at a facility that's optimized for refueling, how are you ever going to get fuel into your tractor without contaminating the tractor's fuel tank?

 

[jyoutz]

How the heck do you contaminate your transfer tank? When you fill up your BMW at the gas station, do you contaminate the fuel tank? When you pump diesel into your pickup at the fuel station, do you contaminate the fuel tank? That's the logic and no deflection. Filling up your vehicle's fuel tank is no different to filling up a transfer tank, and people have no thought of running fuel from the pump through another filter before pumping it into the fuel tank and driving away.

You think I should take more precautions with a $60k tractor than I do with a $100k truck. Ridiculous sheep thinking here.

The difference is storage time. When I pump diesel into my truck, I burn the fuel within a week or two. It might sit in a storage tank for months and accumulate condensation and other contaminants.

 

[McMXi]

The difference is storage time. When I pump diesel into my truck, I burn the fuel within a week or two. It might sit in a storage tank for months and accumulate condensation and other contaminants.

Where are the contaminants coming from sitting in your storage tank? I have fuel sit for months in the big tank and yet I get no water in the water separators in either tractor which isn't surprising since I don't get condensation in either fuel storage tank. In order for condensation to occur, the condensing surface has to be considerably colder than the air in the tank. Also, the coefficient of thermal conductivity is much higher for steel than plastic so much less chance of condensation in a plastic storage tank.

I think it's highly likely that if you experience water in your fuel, it's not from condensation in the storage tank or fuel tank in the tractor but rather at the source i.e. fuel delivery company or service station. Some states are famously bad for fuel quality so an additional water separator and/or fuel filter might be a necessary feature for some.

Happy fueling to all regardless of your system.

 

[selftot]

I've bought a few things from vevor and they've all been good for the price... but for the price you know your not getting premium.

Log tongs, drill chimney sweep kit, clamp-on forks.

I don't recommend clamp on forks but they actually put up with a lot of abuse before i got my ssqa forks.

For a fuel caddy, I'd be more concerned about hose material and pump longevity than the plastic of the tank.

 

[forky]

I just ordered two 110 cup stainless steel coffee makers from vevor for our church kitchen. They should be here in the next few days. I sure hope they brew like they are supposed to. $92 each, so the pricing is good if the product actually works.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

To me Vevor/(any Chi-Com product) is usually worth a try.

Most of my “Vevor experiences” have been favorable, yet there have been occasional disappointments.

Most of my Vevor stuff has been ordered through the "BIG A” since they have a great return policy.

I do “usually” buy a Vevor/Chi-Com product with the intention of it being a “temporary tool/product”, then if it turns out to last a long time, I am pleasantly surprised.

Now, if it ends up not lasting very long, I can then decide if I need/want a better one, and purchase another one accordingly…….(The Mag drill example, is a good one)

I have no idea about their “fueling systems” though….I am still stuck on 5 gallon jugs and a 12V Chi-Com pump hanging on the wall.

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

To me Vevor/(any Chi-Com product) is usually worth a try.

thanks everyone.

Decided I am going to pass on my purchase of a 110g plastic fuel caddy.

Sure for a tool or something the "worth a try "is OK in my mind too but specifically for a plastic fuel caddy would hate in a year (heck even after 10 years) to have a seam let go or it crack and I spill 100 gal of fuel somewhere.

Here we have to report fuel spills over 25 gallons to the Gubberment agency. Don't want that grief.

I have had very bad success with rubber / plastic wheels from China (air filled and no flat). Guess I answered my own question that plastic stuff for fuel is probably going to be a no go here as well.

So I am going to go metal. Probably less of a risk of a leak when on a trialer or travelling around in a back of a pickup.

 

[McMXi]

I have had very bad success with rubber / plastic wheels from China (air filled and no flat). Guess I answered my own question that plastic stuff for fuel is probably going to be a no go here as well.

So I am going to go metal. Probably less of a risk of a leak when on a trialer or travelling around in a back of a pickup.

That's one of the downsides to plastic of course, but just about every tractor, truck and car come with a plastic fuel tank so we know they can be durable. I have the 58 gallon tank in the bed sitting on a rubber mat which sits on a plastic DECKED drawer system. So far no issues.

Many years ago I replaced the 19 gallon plastic fuel tank on my '98 Jeep TJ with a 24.5 gallon aluminum tank that gave me a considerable bump in range, but also a more durable tank for all the off-roading activities that I do. There are many things you can fix on a trail, but a punctured fuel tank isn't one of them. It's been and continues to be a great upgrade that I'd do again in a heartbeat.

 

[chim]

My fuel setup is three 55 gallon drums. That lasts (sits) for a year or so. There's a Goldenrod water block filter that also filters out any teensy bits that don't belong there. It may be a remote possibility that contamination can be a problem, but not an impossibility. I helped #2 Son drain and remove a 275 gallon fuel oil tank from his basement when He switched to LPG. There was a large deposit of sludge in the bottom that could have been mixed with some crushed stone and used to patch potholes. I'm pretty sure neighbor kids weren't dropping stuff in the fill pipe

 

[armylifer]

My fuel setup is three 55 gallon drums. That lasts (sits) for a year or so. There's a Goldenrod water block filter that also filters out any teensy bits that don't belong there. It may be a remote possibility that contamination can be a problem, but not an impossibility. I helped #2 Son drain and remove a 275 gallon fuel oil tank from his basement when He switched to LPG. There was a large deposit of sludge in the bottom that could have been mixed with some crushed stone and used to patch potholes. I'm pretty sure neighbor kids weren't dropping stuff in the fill pipe

It sounds to me like that tank had long term sulfur deposits from when fuel oil still had high sulfur content.

 

[McMXi]

It sounds to me like that tank had long term sulfur deposits from when fuel oil still had high sulfur content.

And herein lies the problem. Many things are carry-overs from a time when things were different, or simply not an apples to apples comparison. Storage tank material, internal coatings, fuel quality, fuel chemistry, the precision/requirements of the internal components of fuel systems, onboard filtration etc., have changed drastically over the years but the anachronisms linger.

If you want a fun topic to investigate, do a search on the whole theory about water getting into storage tanks or fuel tanks. Read some of the studies done on this and do some math and calculate the maximum amount of water vapor that's even possible in an empty 200 gallon tank let alone one that's 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 full. There is so much mythology it's ridiculous. If you have water in your fuel storage tank it's not coming from air in the tank. This is why I've never subscribed to the theory that you should keep your fuel tanks close to full to avoid condensation. It's simply a myth that isn't supported by the math or physics.

 

[armylifer]

If you put clean fuel in a clean transfer tank, you should never have to worry about contamination. That of course means that you have to do your part and make sure that you are not introducing any contaminants when you refuel the transfer tank.

 

[lynnmor]

My fuel setup is three 55 gallon drums. That lasts (sits) for a year or so. There's a Goldenrod water block filter that also filters out any teensy bits that don't belong there. It may be a remote possibility that contamination can be a problem, but not an impossibility. I helped #2 Son drain and remove a 275 gallon fuel oil tank from his basement when He switched to LPG. There was a large deposit of sludge in the bottom that could have been mixed with some crushed stone and used to patch potholes. I'm pretty sure neighbor kids weren't dropping stuff in the fill pipe

I removed a leaking 50+ year old steel fuel tank about a year ago, the recycling place wanted a large port hole in it to see what was inside. I scooped out gallons of sludge and wondered how the furnace could run. I believe that sludge is delivered with most fuel oil and diesel fuel. Some new oil storage tanks have a plastic inner tank for safety and environmental reasons.

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

I removed a leaking 50+ year old steel fuel tank about a year ago, the recycling place wanted a large port hole in it to see what was inside. I scooped out gallons of sludge and wondered how the furnace could run. I believe that sludge is delivered with most fuel oil and diesel fuel. Some new oil storage tanks have a plastic inner tank for safety and environmental reasons.

since fuel oil is most often post refined to a lower standard than say diesel, sludge from settling was not uncommon.

in older days it wasn't uncommon for people to sometimes use fuel oil in their tractors. Not such a great idea I suppose on the tighter tolerance modern tractors.

 

[Sidekick]

I bought one of the Vevor plastic tanks 3 years ago and still no problems. I keep it in the barn out of the sun though

Still haven't changed the filter though. It's fairly heavy wall and only really holds 50 gallons which lasts me a year now that I bought the gas zero turn. Pump is a little loud as it gets down some but I think it's because the tank acts like a drum. Fits perfect the back of my Ranger to go get it filled. I just bought one of those quick dump tire inflators that is my favorite tool after years of trying to manually spread the beads. They don't manufacture anything and actually buy excess manufacturing time companies have cheap just to keep their companies running. I understand they make zero profit on what they sell, all sold at actual cost and then they get a check from the Chinese government at the end of the year that is a percentage of their total sales. I think it's a double digit percentage.

 

[McMXi]

If you put clean fuel in a clean transfer tank, you should never have to worry about contamination. That of course means that you have to do your part and make sure that you are not introducing any contaminants when you refuel the transfer tank.

That's the point I was trying to get across. These transfer tanks are intended to be transported to a commercial fuel/service/gas station. Filling up a transfer tank should be no different than filling up a car or truck, unless you figure you're going to cut up a concrete block in the bed of your truck while the tank is filling! I've never seen someone at a gas/diesel station run the fuel through a 30 micron filtration system before they put it into the tank of their vehicle.

What I've noticed from companies selling fuel storage sytems to automotive professionals, is that the tanks intended to be filled at service stations or the like have screens in the tank to prevent something like a leaf from exiting the nozzle but they do not have additional filters. However, for the systems clearly not intended to be transported to a fueling station, they do have additional filters. Those tanks are typically steel and presumably the places that use them have fuel delivered by vehicles who might have just come from a very dusty and dirty job site. Those companies have actually thought about the product and understand how the product is used, unlike VEVOR who simply buy Chinese clones made by people who have no idea how the product is actually used.

Just the other day I was watching a YouTube channel where a guy is rebuilding a prototype tractor. He bought a reproduction of the water pump that was made in China and the housing cracked as he was pressing the impeller shaft out. On further inspection he found that the case was 1/3 the thickness of the original Moline water pump housing. It looked the part, but it certainly wasn't. This is such a common theme with stuff from China, not all stuff, but lots of it.

 

[Sidekick]

That's the point I was trying to get across. These transfer tanks are intended to be transported to a commercial fuel/service/gas station. Filling up a transfer tank should be no different than filling up a car or truck, unless you figure you're going to cut up a concrete block in the bed of your truck while the tank is filling! I've never seen someone at a gas/diesel station run the fuel through a 30 micron filtration system before they put it into the tank of their vehicle.

What I've noticed from companies selling fuel storage sytems to automotive professionals, is that the tanks intended to be filled at service stations or the like have screens in the tank to prevent something like a leaf from exiting the nozzle but they do not have additional filters. However, for the systems clearly not intended to be transported to a fueling station, they do have additional filters. Those tanks are typically steel and presumably the places that use them have fuel delivered by vehicles who might have just come from a very dusty and dirty job site. Those companies have actually thought about the product and understand how the product is used, unlike VEVOR who simply buy Chinese clones made by people who have no idea how the product is actually used.

Just the other day I was watching a YouTube channel where a guy is rebuilding a prototype tractor. He bought a reproduction of the water pump that was made in China and the housing cracked as he was pressing the impeller shaft out. On further inspection he found that the case was 1/3 the thickness of the original Moline water pump housing. It looked the part, but it certainly wasn't. This is such a common theme with stuff from China, not all stuff, but lots of it.

Vevor sells their products around the world and some areas do require filters due to fuel supply conditions I was told.