Switching Tire Types - L2501

[Trustable]

Hello All - I have put in an offer on a house that is quite different in the landscape then my current place. My current place is nearly all woods and nearly flat, and the new place has about 3 acres of woods, but the majority is mostly made up of rolling prairie/field and a very large grass yard. My current R1 tires work great for the property im at now, ive never gotten stuck, ive never needed more traction, but they do mark up my stone/crushed aspahult driveway as well as the little bit of yard I have. Im essentially trying to figure out if you can just switch to a tire of a different tread pattern just like you could switch from all seasons to all terrain on a vehicle. I tried looking online but saw a mixed bag of yes, you cant because the wheels are different, or you cant because of XYZ. Having chains would be nice as well, as both properties have snow, the one Im looking at will have significantly more.

Granted, I dont even have this property yet but want to be prepared, as I would like to get R4's or R14's to not mark up the yard and driveway. I know tractor tires are expensive as well, so Im also weighing the costs of a different machine, possibly one slightly larger. Thanks in advance for the advice.

 

[Russell King]

You can not use the same wheels between most tire types. I “think” R4 and R14 tires are the only ones that could fit the same rims.

But you can buy the rims and tires as a set from the dealer and supposedly save on cost by using the SALES department to order them as WHOLEGOODS. Do not order them through the parts department.

Also don’t mess up the rolling circumference ratio by using the incorrect tire sizes front to rear or mixing types.

Good luck!

 

[JasonW]

Two things stick out in your post is you’re worried about marking up a stone driveway and yard, then you are considering a larger machine. Why would you go larger?

I have a gravel driveway and I drive my 9k lb M series with R1’s on it about every time I get it out. It only tears the driveway and/or yard up if I try to, mainly turning sharp.

The R14’s appear like a good option but at the cost of new rims also. And having to sell your current tires and rims.

Also an all terrain is decent at most conditions but not good at anything.

 

[Trustable]

Two things stick out in your post is you’re worried about marking up a stone driveway and yard, then you are considering a larger machine. Why would you go larger?

I have a gravel driveway and I drive my 9k lb M series with R1’s on it about every time I get it out. It only tears the driveway and/or yard up if I try to, mainly turning sharp.

The R14’s appear like a good option but at the cost of new rims also. And having to sell your current tires and rims.

Also an all terrain is decent at most conditions but not good at anything.

My thought with going larger is to have a bit more pto HP and lift capacity - the reason I thought of it is because of how expensive tires can be. And agree with you on all’s terrains, much like everything in life they are a compromise. when I was doing research on this subject I saw some tractor tires that looked almost like an all terrain, that may be interesting to explore further. i appreciate the feedback on this question, as it may end up costing too much with wheels and tires. really i am probably better suited to a ventrac but that a lot of money for not a whole lot of versatility Compared to the l2501

 

[bbxlr8]

Have the R14s in mixed woods, northern environment (PA not MI) and am over lawn/finish cut grass with no ill effects unless soaked or sharp turns. They are great all around, but I have a plow for snow duty...

IMO, consider sticking with the L2501 unless you can get great deals on purchase and sell. Mine really does anything I ask it here on a lot more land and forest. Used wheels are out there, but still prob $$. Try it as is for a bit until you get settled, but you look to be on the right track doing your homework on pro/cons/$

edit - curious what you plan on lifting that is beyond the H pump capacity of the L. Ground pulling/pto power is another thing entirely. Also, have you checked your hyd pressures and optimized if you are having lift issues?

 

[Trustable]

Have the R14s in mixed woods, northern environment (PA not MI) and am over lawn/finish cut grass with no ill effects unless soaked or sharp turns. They are great all around, but I have a plow for snow duty...

IMO, consider sticking with the L2501 unless you can get great deals on purchase and sell. Mine really does anything I ask it here on a lot more land and forest. Used wheels are out there, but still prob $$. Try it as is for a bit until you get settled, but you look to be on the right track doing your homework on pro/cons/$

edit - curious what you plan on lifting that is beyond the H pump capacity of the L. Ground pulling/pto power is another thing entirely. Also, have you checked your hyd pressures and optimized if you are having lift issues?

Thank you! My thought with the lift capacity is to just have more of a buffer, so I would only ever use 1/2 the capacity instead of 3/4 or all. That may be a flawed way of thinking though, id just like to avoid excess wear.

Id Like to get forks but worry that with 300lb of forks I might not be able to safely lift pallets or heavy objects. I would love to get more breakout force as well to take bigger bites out of dirt/clay but i understand a tractor shouldn’t be used as a dozer and ctl.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

When I was looking for my 2501, lift capacity was one of the factors I “weighed”.

In order to get what I considered “a substantial increase”, the 4701 (or larger….think M or MX,) was the only option.

So thats a pretty big “increase” in tractor….(or maybe things have changed?)


I don’t recall the designation of my tires, but they don’t do what I consider "significant damage” to my gravel driveway or the grass (when it’s dry).

On concrete they leave “black marks” but that is to be expected.

 

[Trustable]

When I was looking for my 2501, lift capacity was one of the factors I “weighed”.

In order to get what I considered “a substantial increase”, the 4701 (or larger….think M or MX,) was the only option.

So thats a pretty big “increase” in tractor….(or maybe things have changed?)


I don’t recall the designation of my tires, but they don’t do what I consider "significant damage” to my gravel driveway or the grass (when it’s dry).

On concrete they leave “black marks” but that is to be expected.



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Thanks! It looks like you have R4 tires as I understand it. I haven’t looked into how far I will need to go up for extra lift, but it is probably a lot more tractor than I need. Based on all the feedback I’ll probably be sticking with the machine and tires I have for a bit.

also, I saw you are in Michigan - do you do chains on the tires in the snow or do you have enough traction with just 4wd?

 

[forky]

I also think it's a good decision to keep what you have and see how it goes.
I have no problem with R1's in snow and never needed chains.
Just take it easy on the lawn and stay off it when it's wet and soft.

 

[bbxlr8]

Per RWS, i went for this as the "just right for me" combo for manuvering in woods vs cap (& budget).
I move a LOT of dirt/rock and judicious massive trees w grapple cut into 12' lengths... The pump and loader on these is the same through the 39 (at least my year) Again, maybe check the pressure and carefully optimize with very cheap kubota shims. There is a spec range from the factory (research past threads) and you can overdo for the weight/class etc. It made a big difference in mine.

Side bar and not a highjack - @Runs With Scissors love that chainsaw holder How is it mounted and can you pm pics of the attachment? Thx

 

[Trustable]

Per RWS, i went for this as the "just right for me" combo for manuvering in woods vs cap (& budget).
I move a LOT of dirt/rock and judicious massive trees w grapple cut into 12' lengths... The pump and loader on these is the same through the 39 (at least my year) Again, maybe check the pressure and carefully optimize with very cheap kubota shims. There is a spec range from the factory (research past threads) and you can overdo for the weight/class etc. It made a big difference in mine.

Side bar and not a highjack - @Runs With Scissors love that chainsaw holder How is it mounted and can you pm pics of the attachment? Thx

Thanks! And no worries- I would like to know more about that saw holder as I have been needing to get one.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Thanks! It looks like you have R4 tires as I understand it. I haven’t looked into how far I will need to go up for extra lift, but it is probably a lot more tractor than I need. Based on all the feedback I’ll probably be sticking with the machine and tires I have for a bit.

also, I saw you are in Michigan - do you do chains on the tires in the snow or do you have enough traction with just 4wd?

I do not have chains, however, in all fairness my tractor is a “toy” that resides at my cottage, so it does not see substantail amounts of work, especially in the winter.

For the small amount of work that I do in the winter, those tires are pretty good.

Here is a pic of me (and the grandkids) after digging out the “General Lee” ….but it is certainly no fault of the tires……There are just some places tractors should not go……..

But the next day, my grandson got to use (play with) the pressure washer, so he was happy...


(pic not actually of the next day, but he does love that pressure washer)

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Side bar and not a highjack - @Runs With Scissors love that chainsaw holder How is it mounted and can you pm pics of the attachment? Thx

Thanks! And no worries- I would like to know more about that saw holder as I have been needing to get one.

Thank you gentlemen.

Here is my write up of how I made it, and how it mounts.

It was pretty easy, and it works great, and it is truly “quick connect” (takes “literally" 15 seconds)

I have trailered it back and forth, thousands of miles, and never had a problem with it.

https://www.orangetractortalks.com/...sconnect-chain-saw-carrier.62151/#post-621585

The “key” to it, is making that bottom part that goes in the tube a “very snug” fit.

EDIT; when I say “very snug” it is still easily removed by hand, so maybe “slight press by hand” fit better describes it.

 

[Trustable]

I do not have chains, however, in all fairness my tractor is a “toy” that resides at my cottage, so it does not see substantail amounts of work, especially in the winter.

For the small amount of work that I do in the winter, those tires are pretty good.

Here is a pic of me (and the grandkids) after digging out the “General Lee” ….but it is certainly no fault of the tires……There are just some places tractors should not go……..



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But the next day, my grandson got to use (play with) the pressure washer, so he was happy...


(pic not actually of the next day, but he does love that pressure washer)
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oh man, that is what I always worry about going into the woods. At least your grandson had a good time! Any time on the pressure washer is a good time!