quickhitch attachments not level

kenka

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I have a bx25d with quick hitch installed and whether it is the snow thrower or snow blade the left side is approximately 5/8 to 3/4 of an inch lower than the right when raised above a level surface.

I can lower and apply down pressure to make it ride evenly on the ground but it is causing concrete surface damage on left side due to the amount of down pressure required to get it to sit level.

I have searched everywhere and the only thing I can find in terms of trouble shooting is to check rear tire pressures which I have. Tire pressure is even and this is not the cause.

I have also measured tractor frame side to side (front and back) and quick hitch to ground and all measurements appear to be even with each side.....

Attachments are all brand new.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Ken
 
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bcp

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Raise the hitch a few inches so you know it is fully supported by the lifting arms. Get behind the tractor in a low position and sight over the top of the quick hitch, then turn the adjuster on the right side until the top of the hitch lines up visually with the bottom of the fenders. I may have to move back and forth several times until it is right. Then I know the hitch level matches the tractor level.

If your hitch and tractor match, but aren't level with the ground, there is some other issue.

Bruce
 
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chucky79

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are you talking about the front quick hitch for the blade/blower/sweeper or a rear hitch?
 

bcp

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I'm confused by a common language? :)

Usually a "quick hitch" is on the rear of a tractor and a "quick attach" is on the loader.

Bruce
 

kenka

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Hey thanks for the quick posts. Greatly appreciated!

Sorry for not being totally clear.

Chucky79
The quick hitch I am referring to is a
MALE QUICK HITCH AND SUBFRAME - BX2751
It attaches to the front of the frame of the tractor and then the blade, snow thrower and sweeper are connected to it. It does not allow for any adjustment on each side.

BCP
I'm not sure I understand your suggestion and I'm assuming it references a rear connection?
JustJeff
I'm assuming your referencing a rear connection? If so does not apply. The only attachment I have that has adjustable height left and right sides is the sweeper using chain and springs.
cerlawson
Tire pressures all correct and balanced.

Keep the ideas coming cause I'm stumped.
 
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sheepfarmer

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Kenka, the male quick hitch for the snow blower on my B tractor had the blower sitting unlevel when I went to see it just before delivery, and I asked the tech to fix it, and it was a combination of tire pressure and something in the subframe, but I wasn't there when he fixed it, so I don't know which bolt he adjusted. If you don't find it I can ask him next week if he remembers which it was.
 

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Also is sounds simple, but when you attach the front sub hitch, there are two knobs with angle lift blocks that can slightly lift each side, but they also pull the hitch right or left which can make the mount sag one side or another. Another simple thing is to look and make sure you don't have s chunk of gravel between the subframe and QD shoe which could can't it sideways.
 

kenka

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HI Sheepfarmer,

I would appreciate if you could check and get back to me cause if you had the same/similar problem and it was resolved it might help me out. Greatly appreciate any additional information you can provide.

Thanks in advance,

ken
 

kenka

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Hi bearskinner,

I have measured and everything is centered and even with the wedge blocks/subframe. No debris...not sure what the QD shoe is...

Thanks for the suggestion.

Ken
 

bcp

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Some things I would check.

1. Measure from the hitch frame to the tractor frame on each side and compare.

2. Put a level on the tractor frame and on the front of the lifting arm to see if they are the same.

3. Put a long rod through the full circle mounting pin holes and measure from the ends to a flat floor.

Bruce
 

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kenka

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Thanks Bruce will check and report
 

kenka

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HI Bruce,

Here is what I found with your suggestions:

1. Measure from the hitch frame to the tractor frame on each side and compare. Height was identical both sides 1 1/4".
2. Put a level on the tractor frame and on the front of the lifting arm to see if they are the same. Turned out to be very very close to the same
3. Put a long rod through the full circle mounting pin holes and measure from the ends to a flat floor. Found approximately 3/16" difference from one end to the other about the width of the tires.

Well all this got me to thinking....it wouldn't take much for even 1/16 of an inch of difference across from side to side at the quickhitch (maybe 7-8 inches) to add up to a lot more end to end of the blade or snow blower 50-60 inches. Especially if you think that one side is going higher and the other is going lower at the same time.

So after removing the rod I tried tightening the T bolts in smaller more even increments. When I did this it seemed to help. What used to be 5/8" to 3/4" end to end difference on the snow thrower now became less.....between 1/8 and 3/16. So This seems to have helped. Re-measured after snow removal and it was at 1/4" difference from end to end of the snow blow and quick hitch was still tight and no movement on T bolts or wedges.

Using snow blower with float was better with this amount of difference.

What were you thinking Bruce?
Maybe it's not easy to get it to be perfectly level and this is the best it will ever get?
 

bcp

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That may be about as good as it gets.

If you want to investigate farther...

Try rolling the tractor a couple of feet and measure again.
Tires may not be as round as car tires, since they are low speed.
One side may have more tire lug on the ground than the other, until it rolls a few inches, then the opposite side has more.


If the slant is consistent...
A tire on one side may be slight larger radius than the one on the other side.
The blade and the blade mounting points may not be perfectly parallel.

Bruce
 
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kenka

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Thanks for the additional insight Bruce. We'll probably leave it at that for now.....Maybe sheepfarmer will have something more.
 

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Sounds like you are making progress, I hope to see tech on Thurs if weather holds, and will write myself a note to ask. If so can photograph part on my B so you can check same. These leveling issues are challenging, there is an old thread of mine on trying to get the bucket level on the L3560. It also was a combination of tires plus loader frame. Perfection is generally not possible, but you can do better than gouging out one side consistantly.
 

sheepfarmer

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Here is where the adjustments were made on my snowblower:

He said loosen the 3 bolts a bit and shift the blower up or down.

Hope you are doing well with yours. We have no snow and none on the horizon in the next week. :(
 

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kenka

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Thanks sheepfarmer, tempforce

Good to know. I looked at those bolts (mine are currently set even) with brief temptation but opted to verify if the problem was the same with the push blade first. Turns out Blade is same so it seems it is related to the combination of quickhitch (ensuring it is tightened evenly from side to side to minimize uneven height), tire pressure (even) and implement adjustments like you just mentioned. I'll have to look closer to the blade to see if I can find a similar way to adjust and if I can do both the snow blower and blade I'll probably adjust accordingly.

Appreciate your help!