New engine advise

[trz1000]

FWIW, I have a mix of new and old technology equipment and each has is pluses and minuses.

For a simple on-off like running a pump (or welder, generator, etc), I'm a keep it simple kinda guy. Conversely, no chance I'd trade my kx040 for an older (but way cooler in my opinion) classic but clunky ass excavator.

Anyway, if I were in your situation and budget I would build me an old school low compression industrial engine like a continental f140/162 and convert to propane. Or maybe a Ford 300 I6 again in propane. Haven't had to find parts for a continental in a while but last time I did they were easy to source and relatively cheap.

They can be built to be very reliable, last decades, and are pretty field serviceable with basic tools. Propane is a just a touch more complicated than gas, and you lose some power, but burns way cleaner and seems to be easier on the motor. Maybe that's just a placebo as oil doesn't turn black like gas engines and the exhaust odor isn't nearly as intense.

I'd take the opportunity to fab things up as an attention getter for some free advertising. I ran a 60s F100 for a shop truck for several years. Had dozens of people ask about the business because they noticed the truck.

I am assuming you're somewhat handy with engines. If not then I dont think this approach would be appropriate and finding something more modern would probably be a better fit. Last thing you want is something that isn't user friendly to you.

 

[SDT]

And once agsin - the adoptiin of common rail direct injection is not the result of government meddling. Its because it improves performance. Seventy-five percent of the light cars and trucks made today are GDI because they are more efficient, use less fuel, and produce more power from smaller displacenents. That percentage has increased drastically in the last 15 years and continues to grow. That fact is not lost on the diesel industry.

We are talking machines with hundreds of horsepower and million mile plus service life. You are stuck on low horsepower glorified lawnmowers designed for weekend warriors.

As TP said - that part is not debatable.

Dan

If I am "stuck" on anything is my understanding of how free enrterprise provides products that markets desire, absent government meddling. This understanding has been developed over decades of experience, both in academia and the real world and is unshakeable.

Regarding "debatable:" This thread is about small engines to replace Kohler and Vangard engines in 40 HP applications. The lesson, however, remains the same: Without government interference, free enterprise will provide products that markets desire regardless of reason. It is also not debatable that manufacturers of both small and large engines for use in AG applications did not start adding expensive equipment necessary to adhere to government emissions regulations until forced to do so by such regulations.

Again:

" Absent government interference, manufacturers would provide inexpensive engines without HPCR, engine controllers, DPFs, DEF systems, etc., for those customers who do not wish to pay for such. If a viable market exists for much more expensive engines having the previously mentioned equipment, or some combination thereof, those customers who are willing to pay a premium price for the benefits, perceived or otherwise, of such can do so."

You surprise me, Dan. I would have thought that you supported "choice."

Perhaps an introductory marketing course would enlighten you regarding how free enterprise functions absent government interference???

 

[SDT]

is there a gauge on these motors that show when the filter is full or what % it is at Or even if it’s in the middle of a Regen? I can that info on my truck and determine if I need to take a different route home if needed

Some do and some do not.

Among other things, the Intelipanel (SP?) on my GL6060 could display DPF status while display of such was not possible on my M9960 or B3350. Yes, I know that that a later design of panel released as an "upgrade" for B3350s could (to some extent) display DPF status, but this panel was not installed in my 2018 B3350 despite my requests to do so. This upgrade enabled operators to monitor DPF status to make it less likely that knowledgeable operators would shut down the engine upon completion of work while a regen was in progress or just beginning, something that the emissions system used on the B3350 would not tolerate.

 

[TheOldHokie]

If I am "stuck" on anything is my understanding of how free enrterprise provides products that markets desire, absent government meddling. This understanding has been developed over decades of experience, both in academia and the real world and is unshakeable.

Regarding "debatable:" This thread is about small engines to replace Kohler and Vangard engines in 40 HP applications. The lesson, however, remains the same: Without government interference, free enterprise will provide products that markets desire regardless of reason. It is also not debatable that manufacturers of both small and large engines for use in AG applications did not start adding expensive equipment necessary to adhere to government emissions regulations until forced to do so by such regulations.

Again:

" Absent government interference, manufacturers would provide inexpensive engines without HPCR, engine controllers, DPFs, DEF systems, etc., for those customers who do not wish to pay for such. If a viable market exists for much more expensive engines having the previously mentioned equipment, or some combination thereof, those customers who are willing to pay a premium price for the benefits, perceived or otherwise, of such can do so."

You surprise me, Dan. I would have thought that you supported "choice."

Perhaps an introductory marketing course would enlighten you regarding how free enterprise functions absent government interference???

You dont surprise me Dean.

Dan

 

[SDT]

Gov regulation did absolutely nothing to bring HPCR to the forefront of diesel injection.

It is simply the progression of technology. It’s superior in every single metric.

I absolutely would have loved to get a HPCR in my tractor, but it’s intermittent use all but guaranteed issues with the DPF down the road. I’m making do with less, for the simple fact that 25hp engines somehow are deemed less dangerous to the environment and don’t need one.

"Gov regulation did absolutely nothing to bring HPCR to the forefront of diesel injection."

Regarding AG engines, whether small or large, I will agree to disagree.

Regarding the superiority of HPCR vis a vis mechanical injection, I do not now and have not previously, argued the performance benefits of HPCR or any other technology improvement. Having been a design engineer for decades, such would be surprising, indeed. That said, when considering the suitability of technology for a particular application, performance is only one of many factors, and cost is always one of the very most important. In high volume, e.g., automotive, design, cost is always at the very top of the list, absent government regulations.