I am still trying to reduce the bounce on a 3 pt hitch, on a MX6000 cab tractor.....anyone done this before? MX has no way to add accumulator at all...tried everywhere!! thank you!!!
MX6000 rear accumulator to reduce bounce when snowblower is on 3 point hitch
- Thread starter Todd Harper
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At first I was going to say "what the heck are you talking about" since I've owned two MX6000s over the past five years and have moved a lot of snow. Then I read your earlier thread and realized that I don't drive at top speed to the next snow clearing job. I do come back up the driveway fairly fast at my place but in mid range and certainly nowhere close to the top speed in high range. I can't say I've ever noticed or thought about the SB1574 bouncing up and down out back but that's probably because I'm not going fast enough.
So the lack of down force on the 3-point lower links is the issue?
So the lack of down force on the 3-point lower links is the issue?
its a customer request to have accumulator, potholes is the problem, it seems to be not bad right now, but trying to see if there are any solutions....I cant control how fast they drive is the issue....thank you!
Yeah, I don't have any potholes either. Perhaps that's the solution ... fill in the potholes. I ran the blower today and I just don't get it bouncing when I'm running the trip snow blade on the gravel. I'll be following along to see what you end up doing, or your customer for that matter. Are you a dealer, repair shop or fabrication shop? You mention "customer" so I'm a little confused.
For the record, I have three wheel weights per side and Rim Guard in the rear tires so plenty of weight.
agree on tire pressure...it needs to be dropped for sure, so there is a buttress on bottom of tire....yes thank you!!
yes! Orange aftermarket suggested more weight on rear....I was hoping snowblower alone and loaded tires would suffice, but going to try extra weight for sure, Thank you!!
I will start out by saying I probably road a MX6000 more than anyone on this site. We own and farm ground in another county that is twenty miles from home. Not uncommon in the summer for me to make that forty to fifty mile round trip four or five times a week. I leave home with the full tank fuel and a 200 gallon three point sprayer full. Just the 200 gallon of water is 1,668 pounds. I run three rear weights on each side and no liquid in the tires. Can't recall off hand what PSI I currently have in the rear tires. I do have the loader on but usually drop the bucket off. We have more than our share of pothole and wash board gravel roads in my area. Some times you just have to slow down when the tractor gets to bouncing. I don't think more weight is going to solve the problem. Playing with air pressure will help some. Over the years on bigger tractors I have found that not having fluid in the rear tires helped the tractor to not what I would call lope down the road. I only run iron weights on this farm I don't want to deal with fluid when we have flats. I also run radial tires on my bigger tractors. They ride better. You should be in one of my tractors that will run 30 MPH when they start bouncing. Even with a air seat you just have to slow down.
I can't imagine doing that. Wouldn't it be better to put the MX on a trailer and tow it to the other location? How long does that drive out take you?
There was a time I owned farm ground hundred miles from home. It was in the area I grew up in. I have hauled more than my share of equipment over the years and I am just tired of it. I even sold my RGN trailer this year so I can't haul big equipment for myself or any one else any more. Had a friend of a friend who always wanted to use the trailer and with farm semis it get tricky with insurance. So I just sold him the trailer and if I need something big hauled I will just hire him or someone else. I could haul the MX6000 I have a couple flat beds I haul the skid steer on but its just a nice drive over to the next county and sometimes I am stopping at other farms along the way to do some spot spraying.
I have more automotive experience than tractor, in that world these apply fully. Tires are air springs, fluid doesn't compress, so more air means more shock absorption (and fewer flat tires). These are the reasons I run a weight bucket in tight areas and rear implement as ballast when needing an implement instead of filled tires. Plus I change out tires often so heavier tires means more work.
In automation vehicles we're also trying to reduce weight for better handling, especially unsprung weight. Weight translates to inertia and a smoother sprung ride but less responsiveness. In tractors all weight is unsprung, so more weight could translate to a worse ride and worse handling, depending.
What does give a better ride is taller tires and more space between them, so a bigger tractor. Does wonders.
Agreed.
Driving fast over non smooth surfaces, field or otherwise, with a heavy load on the three point is abuse.
Lots of damage has been done by bouncing around in field or on rough road with a raised implement on the three point.
Putting on two hydraulic side links with accumulators would actually accomplish what you're thinking. The top link would have some effect if the load extended far enough, but the angular forces involved with the to link are horizontal and road bumps are in the vertical direction.
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One of the Ford N series (I think it started with the 8N but could be remembering wrong) had the toplink on a hinge and a spring to address this problem. I would think a hydraulic toplink and accumulator would provide similar function. At least I’d try that and move on to hydraulic side links with accumulator as a step 2 if necessary.
Kind of think the most common solution is slow down. Understand that may not be practical.