Implement help

[Stomper]

I need to landscape my yard better for drainage. I have to dig up the front yard for some sewer issues I am having anyway so since it is going to be messed up, I want to smooth it out some of the high spots and fill some of the low spots and slope the area for better drainage towards the culvert under my driveway. On the other side of the driveway I want to dig out the ditch a bit deeper and make it a more gentle slope so its a bit more user friendly for mowing. I have a freind that has a pto tiller that I will be able to borrow to till up the ground for replanting the grass. I will eventually be doing the same for by back yard. The back yard is fairly good already but I would like to create a gentle ditch to control the rain and snow melt better. Right now it kind of goes all over the place. also the driveway could use some better sloping also. I could probably do all this with my loader but I think it would be much easier and quicker with one of the following impliments. What would be the best tool for the job. Land plane, box blade or rear blade. My tractor is a L2501 and the rear tire width is 62". How wide of impliment should I go with. I have no experience with any of these impliments but from researching them I think the rear blade would be best and it might come in handy for moving snow in the winter. Thankfully it's the cheapes. New 6' land plane is $1800. New 5' box blade is $1200. New 7' rear blade is $600
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[pauly]

Re: Impliment help

Box blade is best for what you want to do. The implement should be as wide or wider than the rear tires if the machine can handle it.

 

[Mainah]

Re: Impliment help

I need to landscape my yard better for drainage. I have to dig up the front yard for some sewer issues I am having anyway so since it is going to be messed up, I want to smooth it out some of the high spots and fill some of the low spots and slope the area for better drainage towards the culvert under my driveway. On the other side of the driveway I want to dig out the ditch a bit deeper and make it a more gentle slope so its a bit more user friendly for mowing. I have a freind that has a pto tiller that I will be able to borrow to till up the ground for replanting the grass. I will eventually be doing the same for by back yard. The back yard is fairly good already but I would like to create a gentle ditch to control the rain and snow melt better. Right now it kind of goes all over the place. also the driveway could use some better sloping also. I could probably do all this with my loader but I think it would be much easier and quicker with one of the following impliments. What would be the best tool for the job. Land plane, box blade or rear blade. My tractor is a L2501 and the rear tire width is 62". How wide of impliment should I go with. I have no experience with any of these impliments but from researching them I think the rear blade would be best and it might come in handy for moving snow in the winter. Thankfully it's the cheapes. New 6' land plane is $1800. New 5' box blade is $1200. New 7' rear blade is $600
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I just bought a new L2501 and I got a 64” BB1266 box blade will it. It covers the width of the tractor anyway was recommend by my dealer. I haven’t used it yet but I intend to do the same as you, landscape my rolling rocky lot.

 

[DuckDog]

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Out of those you list a box blade. I probably use mine too much. So far the most handy and universal implement I have comes in handy all the time never really leaves the back of the tractor.


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[Lencho]

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The tiller will loosen the dirt but not move it. The boxblade has adjustable rippers to do that as well as the blade to cut and move it as well. The sides of the box hold the dirt so it can be pulled along. So you could do the job with just a boxblade and the FEL.
Because you have a tiller available you can use that to loosen and then a rear blade to move the dirt, but it will be a two step job at least, maybe more times switching implements.
How much tilt will the blade give? Some only use the adjustable lift arm, same as the boxblade. Some also tilt themselves- making ditching easy.
Either way you will get it done.

 

[adventure bob]

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I would say that its loader work for 2 reasons: Experience and cost.
I have learned to use my loader for very fine leveling and landscaping. I was determined to figure out how to do this after watching the guy who dug the hole for my house level and smooth the pit to within a couple of millimeters with a 10K front end loader. The guy was a surgeon. I'm nowhere near that level, but I can certainly get to smooth and level. Its a great skillset to have.

 

[barmstro]

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Stomper

Good question, and when you add in price of each the waters get muddied.
It can be done soooo many ways. When I purchase implements it is always a struggle on what to Purchase. But I have found out over the years, that the correct tool for the job makes for a good job and pleasant work.
I would purchase and use the Box Blade, it is one of the implements in my shed I use a lot more than I every thought I would.
I would also till up what ever I could prior to ripping it, grass clods take a lot of work to break down with ripper and box blade.
I would also encourage searching the web for info on how to use a box blade, setup and so forth, correct use/set up makes a big difference on how to operate it.
When working with drainage I usually shoot some elevations and stake it so I am sure of grade, back slope and such. You can use a string line also, it is nice to work from the tractor seat and see grade.
Sounds like a lot of good tractor seat time.
Enjoy

 

[skeets]

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https://youtu.be/LxuEDGSGOZA?t=4

 

[Ike]

What type of ground is it and how much does it need to be sloped. This is the way I would do it. Till it all up to loosen the dirt up then use your loader to make your slope. You can do this by back blading with the loader as the ground will be soft. No make a float or use a spring tooth drag to level it out. This will mean a lot of seat time but using what you already have. If you still need to level it more I would look into renting a box blade unless you have a use for it afterwards. The box blade will do a great job of leveling in the soft ground. If you have a lot of rocks you may want to try a landscape rake as it will drag the rocks out and it will level it as well as a back blade

 

[Stomper]

Thanks for the replys guys. I find it interesting to hear all the different opinions and ways that people have tackled a project like this. I have been doing a ton of reading on this subject and it seems to be a toss up between the box blade and the rear blade. It all boils down to personal preference.
From most of the comments in this thread it seems that the box blade is the perfered tool for the job but at $1200 I will have to really justify needing it.
The ground is grass already but it's nothing special and there are no rocks. The only issue I have with buying one of the impliments, especialy the more expensive ones, is once this project is done I won't have much, if any, work for it after it. I only have 2 acres of land and though I have a large part of the area covered in crushed driveway rock, my loader can take care of any maintenace that will need. I will think on this and consider all the recomendations. I might just do what member rdeist did in the link below and have a 2 in 1 impliment. The ground will be tilled already so I won't need the ripper teeth anyway.
Thanks again for the comments.

http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23556

 

[Missouribound]

it seems that the box blade is the perfered tool for the job but at $1200

You should be able to get a 5' box blade for about half that. You could get a land plane for $1200. With your tractor 5' is probably as large as you should go.
I don't know who distributes in your area, but here we have Tractor Supply.
They have a 5' box blade for $599.
Shop around.

 

[Stomper]

You should be able to get a 5' box blade for about half that. You could get a land plane for $1200. With your tractor 5' is probably as large as you should go.
I don't know who distributes in your area, but here we have Tractor Supply.
They have a 5' box blade for $599.
Shop around.

Unfortunately not in Canada. Forgot to mention I was in Canada
This is our equivelent to Tractor supply in my area
https://www.peaveymart.com/Earth-Moving-C1105.aspx

 

[Lencho]

If you are in a rush new is easy. If you can wait for a used implement they are about half price.
I love my used boxblade.

 

[fruitcakesa]

I got a box blade with my tractor when I bought it [used] and it pretty much stays on the tractor year round.
Obviously it works great for dry ground grading etc. but more importantly,
it makes the tractor a snow moving machine par excellence along with the front PA plow.
Really a versatile tool.

 

[pauly]

If you have a gravel drive the boxblade will not go to waste. I use mine to maintaine our quarter mile drive. Like others have said it almost never comes off.

 

[AndyM]

Pricing for stuff in Canada is brutal. I did find a very lightly used 48" box blade for $ 550 delivered. It has been a great purchase for building and maintaining a road and I can see it would be great for landscaping.