Help me understand add-on hydraulics?

[louky]

I have been looking at packages and noted some options of extra rear hydraulic valves, with the first one being the most expensive and the 2nd and 3rd being "float" valves and being roughly half the price of the first. The options don't mention extra valves for the front. So here's my questions (newbie type).

What implements would require extra valves on the rear?
If I know I will never have a snow blower or a backhoe attachment, is there any need for extra valves?
Would a grapple on the front require an additional valve?
If an extra valve would be required for a grapple, how much more trouble would it be to add it later, can it only be done by the dealer?
What is the difference in a "float" valve?

Thanks in advance!

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I have been looking at packages and noted some options of extra rear hydraulic valves, with the first one being the most expensive and the 2nd and 3rd being "float" valves and being roughly half the price of the first. The options don't mention extra valves for the front. So here's my questions (newbie type).

What implements would require extra valves on the rear?
If I know I will never have a snow blower or a backhoe attachment, is there any need for extra valves?
Would a grapple on the front require an additional valve?
If an extra valve would be required for a grapple, how much more trouble would it be to add it later, can it only be done by the dealer?
What is the difference in a "float" valve?

Thanks in advance!

A rear blade is what first comes to mind for an implement. A top & tilt set of hydraulics for the 3pt hitch would be the first thing that I would do, period. But I do a lot of grading. A box blade with hydraulic actuated rippers also comes to mind, typically that goes along with having a top & tilt set for grading.

What tractor is this for and what is it that you plan on doing? Some people need up to 6 sets of rear remotes.

As far as the 3rd function for the front end loader, that can be installed at any time, but you will need to decide if you want a diverter 3rd function or a true 3rd function. Either type can be installed at anytime, it is not a dealer only type of installation. But then that sort of depends on you and your capabilities.

As far as the float function, that allows the hydraulic to freely move in & out. There are times that this is desired. That valve does not always do this, only when put into the float position. Otherwise the control works as a simple control valve moving the cylinder rod in or out and keeping it in the desired position.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I think MVR covered all the bases!

 

[louky]

Thanks for the prompt responses. As far as the tractor, I am focused on the 3901. Right now I would be using it for ground plowing and discing. I have a 5 foot grader box and a 5 foot blade and wouldn't be getting anything to replace them, so I wouldn't need to add the extra movements there.

I may end up not getting any extra hydraulics at this time.

You answered the question about adding on the front hydraulics at a later date, is this also true of the rear hydraulics?

Thanks again.

 

[olthumpa]

2 days ago I graded about 70 yards of gravel in my driveway. I would have given my lefe nu* to have A top & tilt set of hydraulics for the 3pt hitch to have it. Would have made the job SOOOO much easier and quicker.

please forgive the part that is black and underlined, could not remove the underlining?
http://fitritehydraulics.com/

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I may end up not getting any extra hydraulics at this time.

It's cheaper and easier to get them now than later on!
Those kind of parts are quick to sell out and become non available later in the series life.

I would have given my lefe nu*

Forget the underlining I was more concerned as to what a LEFE NU* is!

 

[GEPM64]

It's cheaper and easier to get them now than later on!
Those kind of parts are quick to sell out and become non available later in the series life.





Forget the underlining I was more concerned as to what a LEFE NU* is!

I think he meant "Left Nut"

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I think he meant "Left Nut"

I know... I was yanking his chain!

 

[olthumpa]

I know... I was yanking his chain!

Yanking my chain, OK it that is what you want to call it.

Fat fingers and other things.

 

[Daren Todd]

I thought them blue pills or cialis were the preferred method over add on hydraulics then there is no loss of the lefe nu*

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thanks for the prompt responses. As far as the tractor, I am focused on the 3901. Right now I would be using it for ground plowing and discing. I have a 5 foot grader box and a 5 foot blade and wouldn't be getting anything to replace them, so I wouldn't need to add the extra movements there.

I may end up not getting any extra hydraulics at this time.

You answered the question about adding on the front hydraulics at a later date, is this also true of the rear hydraulics?

Thanks again.

You can add about anything later on, but it is normally less $$$ when these options-features are done at the time of the original purchase.

For the rear remotes, since Kubota has now integrated their system into the tractor, this is the best system vs any 3rd party set. You can add Kubota's system later, but I doubt that it would be the same cost as if you were to add them when the tractor is bought. They are not cheap, but worth every cent in my opinion for what it adds in all the different possibilities that you can now gain with the tractor.

Think of it like this. You buy a tractor with no 3pt hitch. You can still make good use of the tractor, but no where as much as when it has a 3pt hitch. Well now add aux hydraulics to that hitch and the implements and you have again increased your productivity. These are not for everyone and everyone does not fully understand everything that the aux hydraulics can add, and that is fine, but the possibilities don't exist if you don't get something to start with.

We all hear-read it all the time, "what do you need that for" You don't, just use a rake and shovel and you can get by just fine.