Another Bucket Level Indicator Thread

If I could satisfy all those features, would you be interested in a small production run?

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Kirt

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sorry, another 'no'.
After 8 years and almost 1800hrs, there is no need for a level 'level' With material in the bucket, you need to tilt it back for transporting, same with the pallet forks. Unless you're on flat,level ground, you're always adjusting the 'load'. If you make a zillion runs,your body automatically adjusts the levers to the speed, and ground conditions.
As for a 'universal' indicator, anything mechanical will need adjustment for all the different attachments.
The only easy way is to use an electronic sensor. Cheap to make, maybe $50. Could even connect to smartphone.
No need to be sorry, and sincere respect to your 1800 hours, sir. I shall not achieve that mark in my remaining lifetime. At some point (hopefully not soon) a well cared for BX23s will come on the market with under 1000 hours. 🙂
There are electronic levels that have Bluetooth. As far as cheap goes, yes, if you can mass produce a basic sensor, $50 is an achievable number, and the price points prove that. If you want to attach your phone in a convenient place then that solution already exists. Phone mounts are pretty cheap.
I used to do that sort of thing. I worked for HP, Fitbit, and Oura, among others (CS trained, EE by necessity, ME by hobby).
Moving the sensor to each attachment would be pretty easy depending on how the sensor attached. That part I want to duplicate.
Calibration for different attachments could be easy, as long as you didn’t overthink it. I want to duplicate that too.
I don’t want to look down at my phone when I’m working. I want to look at my attachment.
I don’t want to have to remember to charge it or replace batteries.
There are other downsides to the electronic solutions, but those are my personal hot buttons.
Among voters there’s some interest. More or less what I expected in terms of percentages. Experts have lots of use time and develop innate skills. Some of us will remain amateurs because of our use patterns, yet we’d like to be more effective when we do use our equipment.
But those of you who vote no and explain your reasoning have brought valuable insight, and it is most appreciated. You are why us amateurs hang out here.
I’ll share when/if I have a prototype. If it does nothing but inspire a few people to roll their own, I think that’s a win.
 
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Tim Horton

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Trivia....
Both my tractors came to me with bucket level indicators.. Like said, you run it enough you know where it needs to be to do what you want done..

The place the ...indicator... came in handy was changing back and forth between the bucket and pallet forks.. That required a wrap of tape on the arm for the forks adjustment point..
 

Kirt

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Been working through a few prototypes. Here's some evidence. :cool:
Not happy with the scale yet, though as you can see I've tried a few variations.
As for size, the smaller one is probably a little too small, while the larger one is, well, probably overkill (and I should have increased the size of the numbers).
If your bucket doesn't have a spot parallel to the front edge of your bucket, you "calibrate" by putting it wherever it's convenient, leveling your bucket, and rotating the clear cover so it's zeroed. If you have multiple attachments, you just make a mark on the outside plastic for each one. I have the tolerances tight enough that the clear part doesn't move under normal circumstances, but I suppose over time it might loosen up so I may add a little nylon set screw to keep it locked.
In the end it might all be just for me, but I added a little "glamour shot" to show a little more detail anyway.
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Yes, my tractor is a little dirty.
 
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Been working through a few prototypes. Here's some evidence. :cool:
Not happy with the scale yet, though as you can see I've tried a few variations.
As for size, the smaller one is probably a little too small, while the larger one is, well, probably overkill (and I should have increased the size of the numbers).
If your bucket doesn't have a spot parallel to the front edge of your bucket, you "calibrate" by putting it wherever it's convenient, leveling your bucket, and rotating the clear cover so it's zeroed. If you have multiple attachments, you just make a mark on the outside plastic for each one. I have the tolerances tight enough that the clear part doesn't move under normal circumstances, but I suppose over time it might loosen up so I may add a little nylon set screw to keep it locked.
In the end it might all be just for me, but I added a little "glamour shot" to show a little more detail anyway.
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Interesting Concept. Are you concerned that it will be knocked off?
 

Kirt

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Interesting Concept. Are you concerned that it will be knocked off?
I’m using a 45# direct pull magnet to mount it. It will come off, but not without intent or a pretty serious thump.
The idea is that it will be easy to move to a new implement, and will fall off instead of breaking. Of course if you then run over it, all bets are off.
It may also make sense to mount it in different places depending on what you’re doing, though you may need to “calibrate” and mark for each position.
 
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Been working through a few prototypes. Here's some evidence. :cool:
Not happy with the scale yet, though as you can see I've tried a few variations.
As for size, the smaller one is probably a little too small, while the larger one is, well, probably overkill (and I should have increased the size of the numbers).
If your bucket doesn't have a spot parallel to the front edge of your bucket, you "calibrate" by putting it wherever it's convenient, leveling your bucket, and rotating the clear cover so it's zeroed. If you have multiple attachments, you just make a mark on the outside plastic for each one. I have the tolerances tight enough that the clear part doesn't move under normal circumstances, but I suppose over time it might loosen up so I may add a little nylon set screw to keep it locked.
In the end it might all be just for me, but I added a little "glamour shot" to show a little more detail anyway.
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Yes, my tractor is a little dirty.
I may not need one (yet) but HEY that's awesome!!! Nice job!

Side note - if you're tractor WAS clean and just a "Garage Queen" I'd take you less seriously. ;)
 
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Paul Allwood

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Wow, what a great idea. I just had a look at your Etsy store - some pretty cool looking things you've made.
 
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How do I find your Etsy store?
 

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My loader tractor is an old Yanmar. They make the top flange of the bucket parallel to the bottom. Therefore, it is a level indicator. Works great but I don't pay much attention to it anymore.

I can't imagine why you'd need a level indicator on a grapple since most time you don't want it flat anyway.

Don't mean to discourage your build. By all means do it, but its a no for me.
My B26 has the factory rod which is useless. I only want to know when it is level on the ground for snow plowing as the float feature is also useless. So I added a bar to the snow extensions that bold on each side of the gravel bucket. All it is a piece of flat bar 2 " wide and 8" long. Just by eyeing it gives the right perspective each time.
 
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Kirt

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Update:
I gave the smaller prototype a little test in a fairly low light condition and it was easier to see and use than I thought. Enough so that I'm convinced the largest one in the photos is serious overkill. Not even sure it needs to be bigger at all, since I could easily see to level my bucket and I could easily judge tilt to within 5 degrees, and level to less than that.
I was doing a little work on my driveway and for someone at my experience level, it definitely helped. It might also get me to the point where I can get a feel for position in fewer hours of operation than it'd normally take.
As another poster pointed out, it does measure "level" relative to gravity, not grade. If you really want to match the slope your tractor is on, you'd need a second unit in a place on the tractor platform. You'd then adjust the bucket to "match" the tractor reading to get a "flat to grade" orientation for your bucket.
Anyway, for my personal needs, I think I'm satisfied. I'll make a couple of tweaks (and, of course, print it in something more appropriately orangey) and offer a couple of "beta" units up since there was some interest.
Though this is a little "cart before the horse", I sell beta units at or below where I will sell a final product. If you uncover issues, I fix them and send you new unit(s) at my expense until I either get it right or you return it (at your expense) for a refund. I've tried sending units out without requiring purchase and, unfortunately, lots of folks ghosted me, so I came up with this arrangement and it has worked well.
 
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So, can you itemize the components, and show phases of assembly?
 

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i think it would be more worth while for pallet forks if it could show level at any height

bucket tilt isnt that big of a deal but keeping forks and load level is very important
 
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Can you make it with an adjustable base?
I love the idea.
 
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Kirt

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So, can you itemize the components, and show phases of assembly?
Well... sort of. I will have more pictures soon, and those will certainly give some clues as to how I did things.

Keep in mind that in addition to 3D printers, I've got a UV printer with a rotary attachment for the clear cylinders. In principle, you can make something that works like it without those things, and I'll give you my thoughts on that below. In the dust port business I get a lot of, "can you just sell me the STL so I can make my own." Then the design gets picked up overseas and soon you have a competitor. Now, in a couple of cases, I have released old designs for either no or modest cost. Probably not going to do that for this particular thing (at least right away). There's no real protection possible for the concept, which in its base form has been around for probably a thousand years. What you can obscure, to a degree, is how you solved certain design and manufacturing problems.

What I will do is give you enough insight into those problems such that rolling your own version should be doable with modest materials and equipment. The basic concept isn't really ground breaking.

HERE is something that works on the same principle and might be useful as-is if you have a 3D printer.

The clear cover isn't absolutely necessary. You could draw reference lines on whatever is holding the central pivoting barrel. Not quite as slick looking but functional (calibration is a little different). You could also print on clear sticker material and apply it to a clear cover. Not as permanent as the UV printer, but it should work.

The cover also provides some protection from rain, though it's certainly not completely waterproof.

The pivoting center is also 3D printed in two halves, though I'm still experimenting with different approaches to that. You have to put in a reasonable amount of weight, or mess with your slicer settings to print it so the bottom half is heavier. You could use automotive wheel weights but if you also use a magnet to hold it onto your machine, well, you've introduced a potential problem because they're made of steel. Likewise for small pieces of rebar and lots of other convenient, heavy materials. If you have lead shot, then that and a little epoxy or two-part urethane would solve the problem. If you clamp it or something instead of using a magnet like I do then the weight material is not an issue.

I use a single 40x13.5x5mm potted magnet because I use them on my dust ports, but if you already have some other kind of rare earth magnets, just keep adding them until it sticks to your liking.

I thought about using white PVC pipe for the pivoting center instead of printing it. You could make wooden inserts for it with recesses or holes sized for bearings so it pivots easily. Check out skateboard bearings (608s are what I had laying around) and you can find some reasonably priced options. Once you get it weighted, suspend it, carefully mark, mask off, and paint your level line. If you're careful about how you weight it, this shouldn't be a big problem.

It'd also be fun to do a little machining on aluminum (or other) round stock or tube to make the center. Just machine out a lot of material on the top half if you use round stock.

With no 3D printer, I'd cut the sides out of plywood, and use appropriately sized bolts for your bearings to suspend the center. As noted before, the clear part isn't critical, and you could use some kind of mark on the sides to show the bucket level.

Thus, in the end, the main principle is a weighted cylinder that can move freely with a reference line on it that matches to some mark on the stationary part of the unit (that is then affixed to your bucket/implement). There are a lot of ways to skin that cat. My goal is to make my version cheap enough that you won't want to bother... unless you're into it, which I respect.

Anyway, hope that helps those of you who want to make something of this nature. Post pictures if you do. I should have an orange sample made by tomorrow, print gods willing.
 
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Kirt

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Can you make it with an adjustable base?
I love the idea.
What adjustment do you want to see on the base? If you mean it to account for a mounting surface that isn't parallel to the implement, that problem is handled differently (by adjusting the clear cover).
If it's meant to account for something else, you'll have to clarify for me.