I have a MX5200. I changed all fluids (except coolant) and filters at 50 hours and I am approaching the 200hr service where I need to change only the transmission filter. I really hate draining the 10+ gallons of oil just to change the filter so I was curious if anyone has done just the filter. Will oil gush out everywhere? How messy will it be?
200hr Transmission filter change for MX5200HST
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I believe the MX (or at least some of them) shares the same chassis with the L series. When I did my filters I learned the filler cap was standard one inch NPT thread. I threaded a PVC socked to male NPT adapter into the hole then adapted out out to my shop vac. That applied a negative pressure to the transmission to counteract the atmospheric pressure which would cause all the fluid to drain. This is not mess free, I may have lost a quart of fluid that was in the filter and lines but even so it was better than the gallon or more I may have lost without the shop vac.
Thanks Roadworthy, I appreciate it.
That sounds like a good idea, I think I'll give it a try. The manual states to drain the oil but it's not easy draining 10 gallons of oil without contaminating it....and if you don't drain the oil it's sounds like oil everywhere.
That sounds like a good idea, I think I'll give it a try. The manual states to drain the oil but it's not easy draining 10 gallons of oil without contaminating it....and if you don't drain the oil it's sounds like oil everywhere.
I am wondering, the exact same thing. Seems ridiculous to drain all the oil just to change the filter. Especially at $10 a liter now.
Please can you tell me did this work for you applying negative pressure?
Please can you tell me did this work for you applying negative pressure?
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Mine is a smaller machine but with the same 200-hour filter swap dilemma. I just went for it.
I pre-lubed the new filter gasket, positioned myself comfortably to see and spin the filter, put a drain tray to keep the mess to a minimum.
With only a slight fumbling trying to start the new filter threads on, I lost way less than a liter even with the old filter draining as it came off.
The old filter broke loose initially with a filter wrench without trouble. That is important.
I pre-lubed the new filter gasket, positioned myself comfortably to see and spin the filter, put a drain tray to keep the mess to a minimum.
With only a slight fumbling trying to start the new filter threads on, I lost way less than a liter even with the old filter draining as it came off.
The old filter broke loose initially with a filter wrench without trouble. That is important.
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There is no reason to drain the hydraulic oil.
On a Kubota with the HST filter mounted on the LH side, you will only lose a couple of ounces of oil, plus whatever is in the filter, when the filter is removed. It is a pressure-fed filter, not a free-flow filter like the hydraulic suction filter.
On a Kubota with the HST filter mounted on the LH side, you will only lose a couple of ounces of oil, plus whatever is in the filter, when the filter is removed. It is a pressure-fed filter, not a free-flow filter like the hydraulic suction filter.
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I “hot swapped” mine. (engine off of course)
Quite easy, and I only lost a little fluid.
HOWEVER……If you accidentally drop it, or somehow “fumble-F__k” it while reinstalling it, you will have some clean up to do.
Quite easy, and I only lost a little fluid.
HOWEVER……If you accidentally drop it, or somehow “fumble-F__k” it while reinstalling it, you will have some clean up to do.
Very much appreciated everyone. Thank you. I am going to try this trick today. Thinking maybe using a 4' piece of 1"pvc straight up out of the filler hole to prevent oil coming up my dirty vaccuum hose and then draining back in. I cant imagine my shop vac lifting the oil higher than that.
That's my experience as well on a L3301. I think most of the fluid loss came out of the old filter and not actually the machine. Less than half a liter lost.
My bones were telling me there was something fishy with the directions in the book. Sure is frustrating that we have to 2nd guess the service manual. For the transmission filter change, the service manual, downloaded from the Kubota website specifically says to drain all three drain plugs, and then refill after changing the filter.
I sure do appreciate you guys taking the time to share your knowledge. Without it I would be either contaminating my oil amd causing future problem$ or wa$ting $450 of perfectly good oil