What did you do to or on your Kubota today?

[g_man]

Saturday I cut a fir for stud wood. After cutting the rot of the butt end there wasn't enough sweep room to get it out in one piece so I cut it into three saw logs. Makes for more choker work especially when the top log plows up a load of slash in front of it and the slash pushes off the choker on the middle log before it has a chance to tighten. I've been using the loader on my M all winter. The M's loader is slow and steady no matter what you do. This is the fist time out for the L3010 loader since fall and it requires a very light touch on the loader control. I was a bit heavy handed. It takes me a couple trees to get my L3010 muscle memory back. I like the L3010 for getting into small places.














I took one of my a geezer videos if anyone is interested in how I run my tractor and winch set-up woods to landing.

gg

 

[McMXi]

Curious on your plan of actually using it ... As when I spray I like to be able to turn the nozzles on and off, or switch to the spray wand ... So I only used the wand ... But open station and small tractor means I can reach it from the seat.

I used my 65 gallon one Thursday to spray the fence line ...

But when I sprayed my fields I used 24D ... (Tested with water though!)

I can run different combinations of left, center and right boom sections along with the spray gun but I won't be making on the fly changes from the seat, and don't need to. I'll be going up and back in a reasonably large field shutting off the PTO at the end of a run, turning around, turning the PTO back on and heading the other way. That's the plan at least. @TheOldHokie posted a link to this gizmo in the thread I started re 3-point sprayers. Perhaps one of these in my future at some point. It seems ridiculously expensive for what it is but perhaps it's worth it.

TeeJet 443BEC-34T4T-P 3/4" DirectoValve 3-Valve Manifold Shutoff Ball Valve

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A member here sent me a PM regarding spraying and asked about permits/licenses in Montana. I've done a fair amount of research on this and Milestone is a general use herbicide requiring no permits on private property (non-Ag) whereas Tordon 22K is not since it contains Picloram which is a restricted-use chemical up here. I'm not sure about 2,4-D. I don't produce any agricultural commodity on my property, but if I did, I'd need permits/licenses to spray just about anything.

 

[TheOldHokie]

I'll be going up and back in a reasonably large field shutting off the PTO at the end of a run, turning around, turning the PTO back on and heading the other way. That's the plan at least.

I think you will be looking for plan B pretty quickly. Theres a good reason sprayers have shutoff valves you can operate from the seat.

 

[McMXi]

I think you will be looking for plan B pretty quickly. Theres a good reason sprayers have shutoff valves you can operate from the seat.

No doubt you're right about that. Turning the flow off via the PTO is a gross way of operating the sprayer for sure, but it'll work for now. FIMCO sells a TeeJet 3 Section Boom Control Kit that might be just the answer.

 

[TheOldHokie]

More Affordable Plan B

TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 3

The TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 3 is direct acting with a large flow chamber without a pilot hole to reduce chances of c...

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[McMXi]

More Affordable Plan B

TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 3

The TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 3 is direct acting with a large flow chamber without a pilot hole to reduce chances of c...

www.agspray.com

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If I bought that control valve I could finally have a use for the fancy control box that came with one of the Summit Hydraulics multipliers.

The switches could be left boom, middle boom, right boom and all booms.

 

[TheOldHokie]

You can buy those valves individually if you want to start small. Additional valves can be ganged with a 3/4" pipe nipple

TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 1

The TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 1 is direct acting with a large flow chamber without a pilot hole to reduce chances of cloggi...

www.agspray.com

 

[McMXi]

You can buy those valves individually if you want to start small. Additional valves can be ganged with a 3/4" pipe nipple

TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 1

The TEEJET 144A DIRECTOVALVE SOLENOID VALVE-BANK OF 1 is direct acting with a large flow chamber without a pilot hole to reduce chances of cloggi...

www.agspray.com

One of the side effects of turning on/off boom sections is that the pressure is going to change which means the flow rate (GPM) out of the nozzles is going to change. I can see why TeeJet offers the ability to control the pressure on the fly via their control box which has a 100 psi gauge mounted in it and an electrically controlled butterfly valve to control how much liquid bypasses and hence the internal pressure.

There's no end to this it seems.

 

[TheOldHokie]

One of the side effects of turning on/off boom sections is that the pressure is going to change which means the flow rate (GPM) out of the nozzles is going to change. I can see why TeeJet offers the ability to control the pressure on the fly via their control box which has a 100 psi gauge mounted in it and an electrically controlled butterfly valve to control how much liquid bypasses and hence the internal pressure.

There's no end to this it seems.

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That change is almost instantaneous.

 

[McMXi]

That change is almost instantaneous.

I would expect that to be the case, but with the increase in pressure as one or two booms are turned off, ground speed would have to change in order to maintain the correct application rate. With the adjust on the fly feature the bypass could be increased to reduce gauge pressure back to where it needs to be and and the ground speed maintained. At least, that's my interpretation of what TeeJet is thinking with this kit.

I do like the ability to shut off the booms without stopping the PTO and see that this would be a very nice feature to have for all three boom sections. Not sure about the pressure gauge feature but it makes sense. I just don't know how much the pressure would change when shutting off one or two boom sections. Intuitively I'd think a 30% increase with one boom shut off and a 60% increase with two, so if running at 50 psi with all three booms on, perhaps 65 psi with one boom shut off and then 80 psi with two.

 

[TheOldHokie]

I would expect that to be the case, but with the increase in pressure as one or two booms are turned off, ground speed would have to change in order to maintain the correct application rate. With the adjust on the fly feature the bypass could be increased to reduce gauge pressure back to where it needs to be and and the ground speed maintained. At least, that's my interpretation of what TeeJet is thinking with this kit.

Your Fimco sorayer has a manual pressure regulator, one manual Directo shutoff valve, and one 4 way manual boom selecter control valve. You cant reach them from the operator seat. You have to stop the tractor and get out of the cab to adjust/operate each of them. Think about the problems that creates. Its more than just inconvenience.

Thr Teejet unit moves all of those controls inside the cab. Thats what Teejet is thinking.

All of this was obvious early on when I posted the first link to the high dollar electric boom control valve.

Dan

 

[McMXi]

Your Fimco sorayer has a manual pressure regulator, one manual Directo shutoff valve, and one 4 way manual boom selecter control valve. You cant reach them from the operator seat. You have to stop the tractor and get out of the cab to adjust/operate each of them. Think about the problems that creates. Its more than just inconvenience.

Thr Teejet unit moves all of those controls inside the cab. Thats what Teejet is thinking.

All of this was obvious early on when I posted the first link to the high dollar electric boom control valve.

Dan

Whether it's obvious in terms of need depends entirely on the use. If you're running up and down a 40 acre field you won't be needing to do much of anything other than turning on the PTO and maintaining the proper ground speed. This is basically what I'll be doing ... mostly. These optional kits and the solenoid valves make the sprayer way more useful for complex spraying scenarios, no doubt about that.

Anyway, enough of bogging this thread down with my spraying needs. Good discussion though and I appreciate the input.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Whether it's obvious in terms of need depends entirely on the use. If you're running up and down a 40 acre field you won't be needing to do much of anything other than turning on the PTO and maintaining the proper ground speed. This is basically what I'll be doing ... mostly. These optional kits and the solenoid valves make the sprayer way more useful for complex spraying scenarios, no doubt about that.

Anyway, enough of bogging this thread down with my spraying needs. Good discussion though and I appreciate the input.

I think you will quickly find your simple model does not work as well as you think.

Dan

 

[McMXi]

I think you will quickly find your simple model does not work as well as you think.

Dan

OK ... you win! I ordered the bloody in cab kit and I'll never know how much my life could have sucked.

 

[TheOldHokie]

OK ... you win! I ordered the bloody in cab kit and I'll never know how much my life could have sucked.

Is it too late to cancel? I would have suggested a single shutoff valve.

Seriously - you are going to like havingvall of that in the cab

Dan

 

[chim]

Should have been mowing, but spent time goofing around with Sweet Pea. She's been pestering me for a rope swing so when she got home from kindergarten we got one of the big ol' ropes out of the shed and checked Youtube for instructions on how to tie a monkey's fist knot. It was a little difficult, but got it on the first attempt.

 

[Russell King]

Should have been mowing, but spent time goofing around with Sweet Pea. She's been pestering me for a rope swing so when she got home from kindergarten we got one of the big ol' ropes out of the shed and checked Youtube for instructions on how to tie a monkey's fist knot. It was a little difficult, but got it on the first attempt.

That is a difficult knot to tie and get tight (and uses an extreme amount of rope).

Just tell Sweet Pea not to get hit in the face by playing with the knot and swinging it around. That large of a monkey’s fist would probably knock a tooth out and for sure bloody a nose.

Good job on the swing!

 

[chim]

That is a difficult knot to tie and get tight (and uses an extreme amount of rope).

Just tell Sweet Pea not to get hit in the face by playing with the knot and swinging it around. That large of a monkey’s fist would probably knock a tooth out and for sure bloody a nose.

Good job on the swing!

Had to watch - pause - watch - pause the video while tying it. Even with my XXL hands, using rope that size was work. It was about all I could do to hold it together for the last three wraps. Then about half way through tightening it up, I was starting to worry if I might be going the wrong direction

She already got a love tap from it, not more than 10 minutes in. No real hurt, but it reinforced my credibility after telling her the big knot could be a serious hitter. One of the last things she said tonight was as soon as she gets home from school tomorrow she's going to drop her backpack and run to the rope swing.

How-to:

 

[Paul Allwood]

Getting ready to turn it into a garden

I tried loosening the soil in this compacted and rocky spot with the roto tiller (we all know it's really a rotary hoe) yesterday but it was too hard and rocky. It sort of worked but the tiller was bouncing around a lot. Don't think it would be great for the tiller.

I tried again today with the single tine ripper and it was slow as it needed several passes to cover the same area, but it worked well to loosen the soil down to about a foot.

The plan is to run over the loosened soil with the roto tiller, then add a good layer of some decent garden blend soil, then run over it again with the roto tiller.

Enjoying this little tractor

 

[chim]

Back on the tractor again to mow. It's growing like crazy and clippings are being deposited faster than they're going away.