Hydraulic Controller

[trd]

I've read a lot of older posts about finding a replacement for a Husco 9210 controller. I have a B7400 with a Wood loader. Please bear in mind, when it comes to this hydraulic system, I'm dumber than dirt. Phrases like "Center Open/Closed" and "2 spools" etc, leaves me scratching my head. However, I have determined (I hope) that my controller is a 2 spool and is an open center.
With all that said, can someone suggest a Controller that would be a direct replacement?
Thanks --

 

[Mountainman]

You would be correct. 2 spool open center. 1 spool does the boom up and down and the other spool does the bucket curl function. Open center means fluid is basically just passing thru when both spools are closed. Many out there. I personally like the chief 220957 valve. Good quality valve for reasonable money. Will also need the 220842 power beyond valve. Direct swap other than you may have to get a few fittings depending on what your valve currently has

 

[Kennyd4110]

Something like this would work well:

2 Spool 10 GPM Joystick Loader Control Valve w/Float Chief 220957 | Chief | Brands | www.surpluscenter.com

2 Spool 10 GPM Joystick Loader Control Valve w/Float Chief 220957, Chief, 2 SPOOL JOYSTICK LOADER CONTROL VALVE WITH FLOAT Brand new, CHIEFChief,220957,

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[trd]

You would be correct. 2 spool open center. 1 spool does the boom up and down and the other spool does the bucket curl function. Open center means fluid is basically just passing thru when both spools are closed. Many out there. I personally like the chief 220957 valve. Good quality valve for reasonable money. Will also need the 220842 power beyond valve. Direct swap other than you may have to get a few fittings depending on what your valve currently has

Thanks for the quick reply. What does the 220842 power beyond valve do? I looked it up and I assume it goes into one of the line inlet/outlet.
If I order these 2 items, Can I assume it's all a direct replacement?
Thanks

 

[TheOldHokie]

Thanks for the quick reply. What does the 220842 power beyond valve do? I looked it up and I assume it goes into one of the line inlet/outlet.
If I order these 2 items, Can I assume it's all a direct replacement?
Thanks

The sleeve goes in the N (neutral) port and separates tank return flow from the neutral power beyond flow. Probably beyond your current pay grade.

None of the valves listed are true functional equivalents. The Husco is a series valve and the others are parallel. I suspect your vslve also has regeneratuve extend on the bucket spool Finding a series valve with joystick control is going to be expensive - $500-$600. Add a hundred or so for regen. You will probably never realize the difference and probably not worth the added expense.

Pretty much a plug and play swap. You may need to drill new mounting holes and purchase a few (cheap) hydraulic adapters to hook in the hoses.

Dan

 

[trd]

Thanks for the help. I ordered it tonight

 

[TheOldHokie]

Thanks for the help. I ordered it tonight

May I ask why you are replacing it?

Dan

 

[Mountainman]

Thanks for the quick reply. What does the 220842 power beyond valve do? I looked it up and I assume it goes into one of the line inlet/outlet.
If I order these 2 items, Can I assume it's all a direct replacement?
Thanks

@TheOldHokie summed that up very well.

 

[trd]

I asked earlier about replacing the Husco controller with another suitable controller. A Chief Controller was recommended. I have the new controller and I'm trying to figure out how to plumb it correctly. I'm posting a couple of diagrams with the connection labeled. The red caps on the Chief is where the fittings goes.
Given the fact that I'm dumber than dirt when it comes to this project, I'm hoping someone can instruct me in elementary terms --- For example: -- The hose on connector "A" of the Husco goes to the connector "A" on the Chief.
I included a pic of the Chief controller. They're 2 Red caps on each side, with a corresponding "plug" on the front side. I assume the plug can be swapped out with the corresponding red cap for plumbing purposes. Also, where does the Power Beyond Plug go?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Terry

 

[TheOldHokie]

I asked earlier about replacing the Husco controller with another suitable controller. A Chief Controller was recommended. I have the new controller and I'm trying to figure out how to plumb it correctly. I'm posting a couple of diagrams with the connection labeled. The red caps on the Chief is where the fittings goes.
Given the fact that I'm dumber than dirt when it comes to this project, I'm hoping someone can instruct me in elementary terms --- For example: -- The hose on connector "A" of the Husco goes to the connector "A" on the Chief.
I included a pic of the Chief controller. They're 2 Red caps on each side, with a corresponding "plug" on the front side. I assume the plug can be swapped out with the corresponding red cap for plumbing purposes. Also, where does the Power Beyond Plug go?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Terry

Lets use the actual labels on the valve.

1. There are two ports marked P. They are both pressure in from the tractor. You can use either one - just be sure to put a steel plug in the one you do not use.
2. Remove the steel plug in the N port and install the power beyond sleeve. This is power beyond return to your tractor.
3. There ars two ports marked T. They are tank return to the tractor and you can use one or both. Make sure you put a steel plug in any unused one.
4. The four middle top ports go to the loader cylinders. The lert two are boom and the right two are bucket.

Dan

 

[Russell King]

If you can post the valve model number for both valves or better yet identify the ports on each valve with a better description than a,b,c,d.

There will be a port into the valve to supply power into the valve. May be labeled as P

There will be a port or two where the Power Beyond sleeve is installed. Those may be T ports.

There will be a port for tank return. That may also be a T ports.

then there will be hoses to the cylinders. They are a matched set of two ports and are normally arranged in a pair vertically. I think those are the four ports that are shown in your photo.

The plastic plugs can NOT stay in the valve during use, they are just protective sleeves for shipping purposes. Don’t remove them until you are ready to connect a fitting (that has a plug or cover) into the hole. You want to be a clean as possible when doing this work to protect your valve and pump.

edit: @TheOldHokie types faster!

 

[Russell King]

Other suggestions are to be sure you label the hose ends as you remove them one by one or you will have a mess to figure out. Tie the sets of two cylinder hoses together and label each with some indication of where it attaches to the cylinder (extends piston or retracts piston).

You may need adapter fittings with sealing washers into the valve since the threads. If you are getting new hoses I suggest getting all hose ends with a Female JIC connection since it won’t twist the hose as you tighten the fitting and they don’t leak if properly tightened.

If anything is using NPT thread, use pipe dope carefully instead of tape.

Good Luck!

 

[TheOldHokie]

Other suggestions are to be sure you label the hose ends as you remove them one by one or you will have a mess to figure out. Tie the sets of two cylinder hoses together and label each with some indication of where it attaches to the cylinder (extends piston or retracts piston).

You may need adapter fittings with sealing washers into the valve since the threads. If you are getting new hoses I suggest getting all hose ends with a Female JIC connection since it won’t twist the hose as you tighten the fitting and they don’t leak if properly tightened.

If anything is using NPT thread, use pipe dope carefully instead of tape.

Good Luck!

There are no NPT ports on that valve. Everything is SAE oring boss - DO NOT USE SEALANT.

Dan

 

[TheOldHokie]

I asked (in another post) about replacing the Husco controller with another suitable controller. A Chief Controller was recommended. I have the new controller and I'm trying to figure out how to plumb it correctly. I'm posting a couple of diagrams with the connection labeled. The red caps on the Chief is where the fittings goes.
Given the fact that I'm dumber than dirt when it comes to this project, I'm hoping someone can instruct me in elementary terms --- For example: -- The hose on connector "A" of the Husco goes to the connector "A" on the Chief.
I included a pic of the Chief controller. They're 2 Red caps on each side, with a corresponding "plug" on the front side. I assume the plug can be swapped out with the corresponding red cap for plumbing purposes. Also, where does the Power Beyond Plug go?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Terry

Remind me again - why are you replacing this valve?

Dan

 

[Kennyd4110]

Link to other thread for reference....why start a new one? Maybe @North Idaho Wolfman can combine them.

Hydraulic Controller

I've read a lot of older posts about finding a replacement for a Husco 9210 controller. I have a B7400 with a Wood loader. Please bear in mind, when it comes to this hydraulic system, I'm dumber than dirt. Phrases like "Center Open/Closed" and "2 spools" etc, leaves me scratching my head...

www.orangetractortalks.com

 

[trd]

If you can post the valve model number for both valves or better yet identify the ports on each valve with a better description than a,b,c,d.

There will be a port into the valve to supply power into the valve. May be labeled as P

There will be a port or two where the Power Beyond sleeve is installed. Those may be T ports.

There will be a port for tank return. That may also be a T ports.

then there will be hoses to the cylinders. They are a matched set of two ports and are normally arranged in a pair vertically. I think those are the four ports that are shown in your photo.

The plastic plugs can NOT stay in the valve during use, they are just protective sleeves for shipping purposes. Don’t remove them until you are ready to connect a fitting (that has a plug or cover) into the hole. You want to be a clean as possible when doing this work to protect you valve and pump.

edit: @TheOldHokie types faster!

Here is a pic of the Chief controller. T, P and N are clearly seen. I installed the "Power Beyond Plug" in "N".
I understand the 4 center connections are for the cylinders.
The lower right has a connector that is plugged off

The Husco is a 9120 (diagram has it marked 9210, my mistake) The Husco has 2 connector on the bottom (see diagram) marked "Out" and "In" -- the left center has a connector marked PB ---- At the upper right is a capped off valve.

Thanks for the help

 

[TheOldHokie]

Here is a pic of the Chief controller. T, P and N are clearly seen. I installed the "Power Beyond Plug" in "N".
I understand the 4 center connections are for the cylinders.
The lower right has a connector that is plugged off

The Husco is a 9120 (diagram has it marked 9210, my mistake) The Husco has 2 connector on the bottom (see diagram) marked "Out" and "In" -- the left center has a connector marked PB ---- At the upper right is a capped off valve.

Thanks for the help

I told you exactly what those ports are.

There are two P ports - both SAE-10. You can use either one and put the steel plug in the one you dont use.

There are two T ports- both SAE-10. You can use either one or both. Put a steel plug in any unused port.

The PB port in the end of the sleeve is SAE-08

The four cylinder work ports are SAE-08. The two on the left side are boom and the two on the right are bucket


Match that up to the hoses on the Husco valve. Its just that easy..

Dan

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Link to other thread for reference....why start a new one? Maybe @North Idaho Wolfman can combine them.

Hydraulic Controller

I've read a lot of older posts about finding a replacement for a Husco 9210 controller. I have a B7400 with a Wood loader. Please bear in mind, when it comes to this hydraulic system, I'm dumber than dirt. Phrases like "Center Open/Closed" and "2 spools" etc, leaves me scratching my head...

www.orangetractortalks.com

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